powerpack issues

spazio10

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heya guys i have been working on a 69 johnson 55 hp outboard and things have been going ok but after running it for a while i seem to be losing spark in #1 cylinder intermitenly. after the boat cools it seems to run fine for a while then acts up again. does this sound like a powerpack issue or how could i test to find out whats going on

thanks in advance
 

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Re: 69 johnson losin one cylinder

Re: 69 johnson losin one cylinder

ok you are losing spark on # 1. swap the coil out with one of the others. take it for a run. if the spark failure follows the coil replace the coil. if not the you need to look at the power pack. pay close attention where all the wires go.
 

spazio10

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Re: 69 johnson losin one cylinder

Re: 69 johnson losin one cylinder

Well i never had a chance to swap the coils but i did take it for another couple runs and it seems the loss of one cylinder jumps between 1 and 2. the problem only happens after running it for a while then if we let it cool it will fire up and run fine for a bit.

Am i looking at a power pack issue?

where would i be able to find a power pack for this motor and how much am i looking?

thanks again for all your help
 

spazio10

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Re: powerpack issues

just changed the title instead of starting a new thread for powerpack questions
 

Don S.

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Re: powerpack issues

just changed the title instead of starting a new thread for powerpack questions

How do your spark plug wires look, any cracking? Or slices? Try tanking it or putting muffs on it and running in the dark, and see if the ignition spark is grounding out through a bag wire. Also take a gander at your points. Just a thought.
 

spazio10

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Re: powerpack issues

points have been adjusted and i did notice some electrical tape around cylinder 3 wire but that cylinder hasn't cut out yet i don't think. the wires could use to be replaced though. and i did notice the wires going to the powerpack look pretty bad. probably could be ripped apart easy by hand thats how bad they look.

can those main wires be replaced saudered or do i need a whole new powerpack for that?
 

Don S.

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Re: powerpack issues

Me personally I would tank the motor at night and see if there is any ignition wires are grounding out. i.e. arcing to any metal surface.
 

spazio10

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Re: powerpack issues

but is that someting that would only happen when the motor has been running or is warm?
 

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Re: powerpack issues

You should check it. There's been *several* plug wire issues over the last month on the forum that cause cylinders to drop out. You can also put an ohm meter on both ends and wiggle the plug wires and see if you have any open circuits. If your powerpack wires have insulation that is rough, those wires should be replaced. Guys have seen issues with powerpack wires on CD ignitions that ground out and I believe cause it to run slow or go into slow mode. I replaced wires on my 71 9.5 HP because one wire was cutting out intermittently and causes the spark to only jump 1/4 inch and was yellow. After new coils and nice 7 mm copper core plug wires, spark jumped 5/16 inch and was nice and blue. Sounds like you might want to go ahead and replace those plug wires anyway if one is taped - it's probably been a while and they take a lot of abuse as they have to twist with the magneto base. Lot of people overlook that when doing "major" tune up. They are a maintenance item and have caused a lot more trouble than you'd think. You can also check coils with ohm meter. Primary resistance between black and green wires should be 1.0 ohm and secondary resistance between green wire and plug wire stinger should be at least 70,000 ohms. However, that said, the old coils on my 9.5 HP were 77,000 and 80,000 ohms and the new OMC coils were 92,800 and 93,800. New coils with new wires produced blue spark while old coils and wires produced the best whitish-yellow spark on the bottom cylinder. Maybe new wires would have made a blue spark, but didn't check that with the old coils. Check it out with a spark tester too - it's real helpful. You should get at least 1/4" spark jump with points ignition, but it's nice to see 5/16". See Joe's post to make a spark tester at http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=213548&highlight=spark+tester.
 
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