Please help, no spark and so lost

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Hi my name is Josh. Im new here, nice to meet you all. I need some serious help. Im lost. I have a 1988 Evinrude 25 horsepower. Model e25rlcca. It had no spark in both cylinders when I got it. It looked very clean it had been sending them gentleman's garage he had no idea what was going on. I had some spare ignition parts from other Motors of various years and after cross referencing I realized that I had a power pack a stator sensor and two coils that would fit on this motor to test with. Well I started off with a spark plugs and then replaced both coil packs still nothing no spark then swapped power packs to the one that I know was good along with all the other new parts still on the engine still no spark I don't know what is going on. The only thing that hasn't been replaced ignition wise is the coil up on the plate with the stator switch and it is in great shape with no leakage the wires look good and intact. I do not know what's going on man I cannot figure out why this thing still has no spark in both cylinders.

The only thing I can figure is there looks to be an aftermarket kill switch on the front one wire goes to one of the screws on a coil the other one goes into the plug that connects with the power pack. I believe it to be aftermarket because both of these wires are black. Can anyone help me figure out what's going on literally every single ignition piece is new except for the weird aftermarket kill switch and the above stated ignition coil that is up top with the stator sensor.

Is brand new. ^^^^ sorry I hit enter before i fiished that sentence. I can turn a ranch decently but I don't have a multimeter to test any of these wires and I'm getting all kinds of frustrated lol. Any help is greatly appreciated if somebody could walk me through how to test these things and figure it out

 

[saltchuckmatt]

Unplug or cut the kill switch wire then test.

 

[2Stroken]

From the 5 pin plug correct? I tried that,from the kill switch side. You arent talking about the black and yellow wire from power pack side are you? Thanks for the help

 

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From the 5 pin plug correct? I tried that,from the kill switch side. You arent talking about the black and yellow wire from power pack side are you? Thanks for the help

Anyhow i pulled the 2 wire kill switch all together just to see if could generate any spark, one side was grounded behind coil bot and one wire was afore menioned in the 5 pin plug...still nothing.

 

[saltchuckmatt]

It doesn't matter....cutting one wire will disable it.

Are the coils grounded?

If yes then you will need to test the components under the flywheel.

 

[2Stroken]

Ok where do I cut it? Again, im very slow to comprehend electrical. Thanks for patience
Also I have already replaced stator switch under flywheen with brand new omc take off sensor that I had, just to rule the old one out. The coil looked good at first glance, but had a tiny bit of the Ooze coming out near the two wires going into the laminate not a bunch but enough to notice and feel the greasy sticky ooze on my fingers when I touch the wires. Also if you think a picture would help clear something up I can take pictures of the motor and the current situation as well as somebody thinks they can help diagnose that way

 

[racerone]

A new powerpack restores spark 9 out of 10 times.

 

[2Stroken]

Well its new and replaced as I stated earlier. I'm thinking this is a ground wire somewhere that I can't see, and or possibly ignition coil up in the flywheel? And or something to do with the aftermarket kill switch. But i really am just spitballin over here, i dont know crap haha

 

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So just to recap.it has the 2 side coils new replaced, the power pack newreplaced, the stator sensor bew replaced and new plugs. No spark

 

[saltchuckmatt]

Sounds like you already disabled the kill. (Removed two wires)

The coil under the fly is all there is left to do.

 

[Crosbyman]

btw... if you plan servicing the motor or motors .... VOM are dirt cheap starting at 15$. you will need one and utube is your friend tutorial wise. see videos on similar basic process

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1988+Evinrude+25+horsepower+no+spark

 

[racerone]

The parts under the flywheel are easy to test without removing the flywheel.-----The orange / blue stripe wire is going to the top coil ?---All the pins and sockets on the plug ins in good shape and making contact ?--This should be an easy fix.

 

[2Stroken]

Sounds like you already disabled the kill. (Removed two wires)

The coil under the fly is all there is left to do.

Yes I agree it is either that or a short on a ground wire or something like that but I can't see I do need to get a multimeter I just don't have one and I was hoping somebody had ran into a similar problem. I guess I can just buy a new coil for up on the flywheel because so far I haven't had to buy anything I've just been using parts that I already had that I know are good and tested to cross off the other parts being bad or not. So I guess I could throw 30 or 40 bucks at OMC coil hopefully it remedies it I'm tired of swapping Parts on this thing LOL thanks a lot for all your answers guys hopefully I find a way to get this thing firing soon

 

[2Stroken]

btw... if you plan servicing the motor or motors .... VOM are dirt cheap starting at 15$. you will need one and utube is your friend tutorial wise. see videos on similar basic process

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1988+Evinrude+25+horsepower+no+spark

Yes sir agreed.

 

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Okay Phyllis thanks for the help here's an update got a new call to put up top same thing. So I started looking at diagrams on here for 20 to 30 horsepower Johnson's and just following it to a tee pulling off every screw and cleaning it sanding every contact point and regrounding everything. So far I've double checked the five pin clip and the two side coils now I'm working on the ignition coil. I have a question for anyone who might know in this diagram it shows a ground coming off the bottom of the power pack going off to the side and I'm not sure what it is? Top lefylt of this diadram. Anyway so far everything is correct on my motor including the wiring the ground location etc. So I'm really hoping after I go and clean all these contact points I have spark. Otherwise I don't know what I'm going to do?

 

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Okay Phyllis thanks for the help here's an update got a new call to put up top same thing. So I started looking at diagrams on here for 20 to 30 horsepower Johnson's and just following it to a tee pulling off every screw and cleaning it sanding every contact point and regrounding everything. So far I've double checked the five pin clip and the two side coils now I'm working on the ignition coil. I have a question for anyone who might know in this diagram it shows a ground coming off the bottom of the power pack going off to the side and I'm not sure what it is? Top lefylt of this diadram. Anyway so far everything is correct on my motor including the wiring the ground location etc. So I'm really hoping after I go and clean all these contact points I have spark. Otherwise I don't know what I'm going to do? View attachment 378140

**** Fellas and coil , not phyllis and call haha

 

[2Stroken]

The parts under the flywheel are easy to test without removing the flywheel.-----The orange / blue stripe wire is going to the top coil ?---All the pins and sockets on the plug ins in good shape and making contact ?--This should be an easy fix.

Yes on the blue irange to the top coil. Everything looks correct per duagrams. Even cleaned down all the contact surfaces and reground everything as it is shown. Yes all the pins are correct in making good contact. I am so baffled does anyone want a free motor?

 

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And after cleaning and checking eveything ,STILL NO SPARK im baffeled, and just Burnt out

 

[stresspoint]

the cdi is dead .

 

[jimmbo]

Have you checked that the wires have continuity. A wire that is broken inside the Insulation can be a Bear to find. Ones that are Susceptible, are the ones that go to the Armature Plate, as they are flexed as the Throttle advances/retards the Timing