Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

petermct

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I have an 8' little racing type boat with a skiff bottom.<br /><br />A brand new 30HP Tohatsu (4stroker) was installed according to factory manual.<br /><br />Full RPM range is 5,250-6,250RPM<br /><br />A group 24 battery and a smaller 3 gallon fuel tank are strapped down in the rear of the boat behind the seat.<br /><br />Boat hull is easily lifted by two people off a jetski like trailer and is estimated at ~500 pounds.<br /><br />PROBLEM: At full throttle the stern burries down and RPM reaches 3,100 where no more power is given (prop cavitates?). Boat does not jump up onto a plane. It burries pretty good (to the cowling).<br /><br />Full down tilt brings the prop shaft basically on a horizontal plane with the boats hull when eyeballed on a trailer.<br /><br />I am perplexed as this is just about the same reaction I got from the boat on a 9.9HP 2 stroker without extra battery.<br /><br />I have placed another group 24 in the bow and while it flattens the hull for low speed, it has no effect on achieving a plane or getting past 3,100 RPM at full throttle.<br /><br />The engine linkages were checked and operate fine along the full range. Idle warmup lever can get the engine at 6,000RPM easily.<br /><br />Is this a pitch-up or pitch-down on the prop type fix or perhaps some major surgery on the transom to get some rake angle in it to let the engine push the bow down as it power up (at which point I might as well just axe the hull and get a small boston whaler hull).
 

norman158

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Re: Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

this sounds like a fuel problem to me. are you using the same tank as with the 9.9? if so borrow another and try it then.if the prop where cavitating the motor would be over reving
 

butlp

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Re: Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

How far below the bottom of the boat is the prop and cavitation plate? Maybe the motor is too long a shaft or mounted too low for a flat bottom boat. <br />Also, have you tried moving your body weight as far forward as possible to get it up on the plane. I have seen people do that with small 14' alum. boats with 9.9 hp and once on the plane they can move back and the boat goes great.<br /><br />Just a thought!
 

petermct

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Re: Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

This sure would be stupid, but I don't remember checking the vent screw on the fuel tank cap...<br /><br />I have given another group 24 battery a free ride in the bow. and moved the 3 gallon tank to the bow and had let a big heft boat shop guy give it a go and he stood up and leaned forward.<br /><br />I will go to the marina today and check the vent screw cap.<br /><br />It reaches 3100RPM on a dime with 3 different drivers of different weight and stops right there...<br /><br />Motor only has about 3 hours on it so I want to put another 2 hours of 1500RPM-2000RPM on it before opening it up again for short bursts.
 

petermct

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Re: Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

Motor was installed per manufacturers instruction below... I don't have the manual handy and the boat is at the marina... So I am guess the engines anticav plate is 1-2" below the bottom of the hull.<br /><br />Its a skiff-ike bottom and looks along the lines of a boston whaler 15 bottom.<br /><br />You can see the bottom on the first picture at:<br /> http://hometown.aol.com/kjpiel/AddictorPowerboatClub.html <br /><br />I have sent that guy an email as well in case he has any clues.
 

petermct

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Re: Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

Ok back from the marina... The vent cap was wide open and not closed.<br /><br />I talked with the marine store guy and we ordered a new prop 4 steps down from the factory stock prop so less torque and more high end speed as I don't know what else it could be.
 

SeaDawg

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Re: Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

I'm guessing here, but you probably should be using around a 9 or 10 pitch prop with that boat/motor combo. Is that about what you will have with the new prop?
 

petermct

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Re: Perplexed new 30HP bogs down full throttle.

I don't know the default prop but I am assuming 12, and the new one is 8... I'll ask details next time I am in the store.<br /><br />Thankfully I have installed a Tachometer that goes up to 7,000 RPM and should make testing the new prop(s) easier.
 
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