old alpha one

[stratcat88]

installed new seals ,upper and lower pump housing in my drive, no #s,with the gear shifter in forward and the shift shaft turned all the way clockwise with the prop turned all the way counter clockwise and bungie cord holding it in place, did not move. got it all bolted up and i can't get it out of forward gear. no neutral or rev. with button depressed on handle the push for neutral wont go in and it won't go into rev. i have installed this thing 3 times. thanks for your help.

 

[ktbarrentine]

Re: old alpha one

Would need abit more info, but it sounds as if your shift shaft is "off a spline".... When you put the drive halves back together, did you have the shift shaft in the lower half all the way clockwise and the prop locked CCW like you described for putting the drive back on the boat? Then put the top half on with the shift shaft shoe pointing at 12 oclock. (you need to ensure the shift shift is properly aligned when putting the halves back together).

Time to pull the drive, and before taking if apart, see what you can do with the shift shoe. Is it full fwd with prop locked CCW, and can you turn the shift shaft CCW to the 11 and 10 oclock positions for neutral and reverse? If not, time to split the drive and re-align your shift spines.

 

[Bt Doctur]

Re: old alpha one

Did you manually line up the splined shaft in the upper shoe or just try to bolt it together?

 

[bspeth]

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in chris' video in adults only he shows how to put your lower unit in forward before mating the upper and lower.I agree with kt.

 

[stratcat88]

Re: old alpha one

Would need abit more info, but it sounds as if your shift shaft is "off a spline".... When you put the drive halves back together, did you have the shift shaft in the lower half all the way clockwise and the prop locked CCW like you described for putting the drive back on the boat? Then put the top half on with the shift shaft shoe pointing at 12 oclock. (you need to ensure the shift shift is properly aligned when putting the halves back together).

Time to pull the drive, and before taking if apart, see what you can do with the shift shoe. Is it full fwd with prop locked CCW, and can you turn the shift shaft CCW to the 11 and 10 oclock positions for neutral and reverse? If not, time to split the drive and re-align your shift spines.

thanks for your info kt.i did it by the book and i- boats.im starting to think its the throttle itself because that was the last thing this mech. i hired touched, and i have had to repair everything he repaired.today i will unhook the cables and try to shift it manually. thanks again

 

[84EdH]

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you might be right, that it is a problem with the remote control. "by the book" means you have already proved to yourself that with the lower shift cable disconnected from the shift plate, that you can engage neutral, forward, and reverse by pushing and pulling the cable by hand. if that is the case, then with remote cables disconnected from shift plate, prove that the cables move freely and the full movement called for by the manual is found with remote control movement. that should isolate which end the problem is coming from.

 

[stratcat88]

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mornin. well i took off upper and lower cables off shift plate and the shifter moves freely into fwd and rev. and push for neutral. so its got to be the way i installed the lower to the upper unit.shift shaft all the way clockwise and the prop locked up all the way counter clock wise. line up water tubes and shaft and push up, install both side nuts first and then check to see if it shifts ok. sounds easy enough. ya sure. attempt #5

 

[stratcat88]

Re: old alpha one

no go. guys i need help.

 

[flipbro]

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Sounds like your cables may be out of adjustment! Have you watched achrises vid on how to adjust your shift linkage If you turn your shifter to 12 oclock and its in forward then 11 nutrel and 10 reverse and that all checks out it has to be the linkage! Your not pushing the throttle only button on your merc control are you? Have you verified that the cables are moving at the motor when your try to shift?

 

[stratcat88]

Re: old alpha one

the throttle moves smooth when the lower unit is off. the cables move in fwd. and rev. push button for neutral works. i hve not seen achris video yet, ill hunt for it now. thanks flip.

 

[ktbarrentine]

Re: old alpha one

Did you separate the upper/lower? Whadja find? (Or did I miss the part where you took your outdrive off the boat and actuated the shift shoe on the drive and it worked alright?)

 

[stratcat88]

Re: old alpha one

Did you separate the upper/lower? Whadja find? (Or did I miss the part where you took your outdrive off the boat and actuated the shift shoe on the drive and it worked alright?)

i got it kt.the shaft coming from the upper unit was dropping down and turning. so i held it with a thin piece of metal and bolted it up. everything works. thanks for the help. now on to the fuel system.

 

[Eric 3.7LX Alpha 1]

Re: old alpha one

The reason it is dropping down is you forgot to install the stainless washer over the splined shift shaft on the lower half.

 

[ktbarrentine]

Re: old alpha one

Time to take it apart again!!!:doh:

 

[stratcat88]

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no its on there. the upper part would drop before i could line it all up.just from shaken it around. still have a few things to tweak before she goes in the water. having problems with the fuel side of the project. just had carb rebuilt and i cant get it to stay running, but thats a different thread. thanks again for your help. tim