Nor'easter?

QC

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So I have been watching CNN. And of course this is NOR'EASTER 2014 coverage 24/7. And of course everyone is screwed and people are freezing and cars are splattered everywhere and CNN is saving the world. But that has nothing to do with my question.....

I understood that Nor'easters were a storm that proceeds off the coast and the "front" wraps around the center counterclockwise like all storms in the Northern Hemisphere and then the front comes back around the top of the center and hits the east coats from the Northeast. Sooooooo, is this really a Nor'easter or do they just like saying that it is? I thought it was a standard North American storm that came from the west and then passed out to sea.
 

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Basically it was the annual New Years blizzard in Chicago that just kept going. I'm shocked that there's a snowstorm up north in January. Those storms were a lot of fun when I was a kid up north of Chicago but I sure don't miss them now.
 

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A nor'easter (also northeaster; )is a macro-scale storm along the upper East Coast of the United States and Atlantic Canada; it gets its name from the direction the wind is coming from. The usage of the term in North America comes from the wind associated with many different types of storms, some of which can form in the North Atlantic Ocean and some of which form as far south as the Gulf of Mexico. The term is most often used in the coastal areas of the upper East Coast north of New York City, United States. A nor'easter is a low pressure area that often passes just off the New England and southeast Canada Atlantic coastline. Winds in the left-forward quadrant rotate onto land from the northeast. The precipitation pattern is similar to that of other extratropical storms. Nor'easters can cause severe coastal flooding, coastal erosion, hurricane force winds or blizzard conditions; these conditions are usually accompanied with very heavy rain or snow, depending on when the storm occurs. Nor'easters thrive on the converging air masses; that is, the polar cold air mass and the warmer oceanic air over the Gulf Stream.
 

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I looked at Wiki as well nwcove. Point is this storm came from the West, so it isn't a Nor'easter if I understand above correctly.
 

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Michigan coast lines where I live on the east side (Lake Huron) receive what we call nor'easter and they are simply storms that hit us from the east and cause huge on-shore waves and weather. They are rare because most of our weather comes from the west.
 

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I am always amazed at these storms how they shut down the east coast. We had about 18 inches of snow here in Michigan on X-mas eve, it was business as usual aro9und here, before , during and after the "storm". Sad to see people stranded though, but it is winter, and it happens.
 

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The storms get too much hype, the media whips everyone up into a frenzy and everything gets shut down.

As nwcove explained, the term nor'easter, comes from the predominant wind direction (out of the north east) that mixes moisture from the ocean along with arctic air and causes the rapid formation of a storm. (or something like that) In order for this to happen, the storms usually track from NJ to just south of Nantucket. The counter-clockwise swirl of the storm, then brings a 'north east' wind into New England along with the moisture from the ocean. The exact track of the storm is fairly important, in that if the center tracks closer to Boston, it usually is a rain event. If it tracks further south than Nantucket, usually there is less intensity. If it tracks just right . . . batten down the hatches :eek:
 

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This was a nor'easter because you had the weak low coming form the west, but also a weak low coming up the coast. They had the potential to meet and be a big, traditional nor'easter storm. Not sure really what is east of us, but it was a non-event for us ... We only got a few inches of snow. It did get cold and windy with a fair amount of drifting, but not a big deal. Those north and east will have to chime in with the actual effects of this storm system ...
 

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From growing up in Boston I can tell you it has become a slang term for any big storm that is going to dump allot of snow.
 

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I looked at Wiki as well nwcove. Point is this storm came from the West, so it isn't a Nor'easter if I understand above correctly.
as mentioned, this one was two low pressure systems converging, the one from the west was relatively weak, and the one that formed off the coast rapidly intensified as it joined the other one. finally stopped snowing here after 24hrs of it. still blowing a gale tho, zero visibility at times, with wind chills below minus 20.
 

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I looked at Wiki as well nwcove. Point is this storm came from the West, so it isn't a Nor'easter if I understand above correctly.

Well, they all come from the West , kind of. See detailed explanation below:
Maryland's greatest winter storms are the "Nor'easters" or what some call the "White Hurricane". To get heavy snow across the State, you must first have an arctic air mass in place. High pressure builds over New England. Cold, arctic air flows south from the high. The dense cold air is unable to move westward over the Appalachian Mountains, so it funnels south down the valleys and along the Coastal Plain. This is called "cold air damming". To the east of the cold air is the warm water of the Gulf Stream. The contrast of the cold air sliding south into the Carolinas and the warm air sitting over the Gulf Stream creates a breeding ground for storms. With the right meteorological conditions such as the position of the jet stream, storm development off the Carolinas may become "explosive" (sudden, rapid intensification; a dramatic drop in the central pressure of the storm).
The ideal position of the jet stream has it entering the West Coast of the US and then splitting. The north branch crosses the northern Rockies and Canada and the southern branch dips down to the Gulf Coast states. The south branch then turns northeast across Virginia and rejoins the north branch near Newfoundland. The north branch of the jet supports the southward sinking cold air. The south branch carries a disturbance from the Gulf Coast northeast to the Carolina coast where it intensifies into the Nor'easter. Winds around the storm center carry warm, moist air from over the Gulf Stream, up and over the cold inland air. The air rises, cools and snow begins. The storm's speed and exact track to the north become critical in properly forecasting and warning for heavy snow across Maryland. It is quite common for the rain-snow line to fall right over the Baltimore-Washington metropolitan area. The heaviest snow band generally occurs in a 50 mile wide swath about 150 miles northwest of the low pressure center (represented as an "L" on the diagram). Closer to the low, the warm ocean air changes the precipitation over to sleet, freezing rain, and eventually rain. If the forecasted storm track is off by just a little bit, it can mean the difference between heavy rain, freezing rain or sleet (marked as mixed precipitation in the diagram), and a foot or more of snow.
Winds around the storm's center can become intense. The strong northeast winds that rack the coast and inland areas give the storm its name. The wind builds large waves that rack the coastline and sometimes pile water inland causing major coastal flooding and severe beach erosion. Unlike the hurricane, which usually comes and goes within one tide cycle, the Nor'easter can linger through several tides, each one piling more and more water on shore and into the bays.

What they don't say is the waters of the Gulf Stream off NC stay 70-80 degrees year round. Lots of energy to work with

Maryland Winters
 
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All I know is they seem to wash away any beach renourishment that is still in-tacked after Hurricane season is over ..:mad:
On the plus side they give us guys that like to surf something to play on .. :)
 

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If you like it really balmy, come up here for a visit where it was -42C this morning and warmed up to about -35 during the day.

Gerry
 

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All I know is they seem to wash away any beach renourishment that is still in-tacked after Hurricane season is over ..:mad:
On the plus side they give us guys that like to surf something to play on .. :)

surfing.....during a january nor,easter??!! :faint2: gotto say i would have to do a double take if i saw a surfer dude emerging from the sea smoke riding a wave.:eek:
 

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Here ya go !
It's not quite as cold down here . I admit i don't surf winter near what I used to when I was younger . The coldest I have ever been in my life was I think back in the late 80's on Christmas day down here in J-ville . It was the last time it snowed and there was snow drifts on the sand dunes . :eek: I had every piece of wet suit on I could find or steal and was still freezing ..
 

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We do not complain about the snow or the "media enhanced titles" to them. We get snow and we deal with it.

The two main things that get people in my area annoyed are ice and below zero freezing. Right now here it is



-11?F
-24?C



  • Humidity
    52%
  • Wind Speed
    SE 5 mph
  • Barometer
    30.35 in
  • Dewpoint
    -24?F (-31?C)
  • Visibility
    10.00 mi
  • Wind Chill
    -23?F (-31?C)
Last Update on 3 Jan 8:35 pm EST

Yup it's COLD!!
 
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The NE corner of my home has snow piled up to the windows. I don't care what it is called, but the @&$?! blew hard from the NE for two days and froze my butt good.
 

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-9 F at my house this morning . . . Supposed to be in the high 30's F tomorrow . . . that will be about a 50 degree swing.

I may take advantage of the balmy weather and get a little work done on the boat :)
 

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So I have been watching CNN. And of course this is NOR'EASTER 2014 coverage 24/7. And of course everyone is screwed and people are freezing and cars are splattered everywhere and CNN is saving the world. But that has nothing to do with my question.....

I understood that Nor'easters were a storm that proceeds off the coast and the "front" wraps around the center counterclockwise like all storms in the Northern Hemisphere and then the front comes back around the top of the center and hits the east coats from the Northeast. Sooooooo, is this really a Nor'easter or do they just like saying that it is? I thought it was a standard North American storm that came from the west and then passed out to sea.

Why do people continually demand accuracy from CNN? :D
 
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