No Wake Lakes

[Crater]

Here's a question that baffels me:
We have a smaller lake that prohibits the use of any motor over 9.9HP after Easter. This lake also has no wake limitations. So as to my question. Why have a motor limitation when there is a no wake limitation?

I have a 90hp sportjet, not like I can put a 9.9 kicker on to putt around with and a 9.9 will also make a wake if allowed to do so. IA DNR ******* me off with this rule. Heck I know of even smaller lakes that allow any sized motor, as long as you don't make a wake. (weird seeing a 225hp evey going 1mph)

As far as pollution goes. I think it is a bunch of BS. Small lake = pollution would be more concentrated than in larger lakes. This all depends on what motors are being ran there.

Whats your opinions

 

[jkust]

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Ok my opinion stems from my inlaws lake that has a no gasoline engines rule. Electric motors only. I hate government control.

 

[JB]

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Big engines running very slow make a lot more pollution than small engines running very slow. They also often make a lot more noise.

No gas make no pollution at all and no noise either.

No motors at all keep things clean and quiet and fun only for fishermen (some), swimmers (sometimes) and canoers.

If you object to losing freedoms that others have abused in the past, move. You aren't going to get anywhere whining about it.

Some lakes are like gated communities where neighborhood associations forbid anything that is individualistic.

 

[Crater]

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Some lakes are like gated communities where neighborhood associations forbid anything that is individualistic.

I agree, if it is a private lake.

However on public waters, for which we all pay taxes for, there should be some freedom. Don't get me wrong, if there is errosion problems or pollution problems then fine, either no motor or no wake, but don't put a restriction on the size of motor; if motors are allowed. And if a 225hp e-tech makes too much noise at a idle (as not to make a wake) for the land owners that choose to puchase ground on a body of water then let them move.

My enjoyment of the water and land is not for the citizens that may own land on the shores. Do I respect there rights as the same that I have, you bet, I'll go out of my way not to make a wake and bash there boat up against the shore. But if they try to tell me to darn near beach my boat so as not to get too close to there's or "shut it down" cause it's too noisy then I say they have the problem and they should move.

 

[dlngr]

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I enjoy the peace and quiet on a nearby public[supported by my tax dollars],electric motor only,lake. When I want to run my gas motor,I go elsewhere.

 

[Crater]

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I'm by far more of a fisherman than a waterskier, so I also enjoy a nice wakeless, quiet lake. However my question is why the dual restriction. Going into the subject of noise though; Is there a noise restriction on your lakes also?
Noise is irrevelant (screaming partying people make more noise for a longer period of time then a large motor passing by at idle)
So whats next? No motors, No wakes, No polution, No noise(either from motors or people), probaly catch and release only, ohh yea, Tow vehicle has to be parked 3mi away and you must be transported to you boat by some 90yr old man that bitches about you whipper snappers tearing up the lake with those 9.9hp motors.
Well I guess I've gotten carried away now, but I hope you see my point of view.

 

[dlngr]

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Yes Crater I see your point. I boat a lot on the Il river. Drives me nuts to hear the kids and teens[and some adults] scream at the top of their lungs. I'd much rather hear a good sounding V-8 boat go by,fast or slow!!

 

[rolmops]

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political bash smitten. JB

Those that do not respect the rules of this board and start spouting political opinions will probably get "smitten".
It is quite possible those very same people caused restrictions on the use of lakes because of their abrasive attitudes while on those lakes.
Around here there are a few lakes that do not even have homes or agriculture near their shores.Only under 10 horse engines are allowed on these lakes.They also happen to be the main drinking water reservoirs for more than 2 million people and they are the property of the city of Rochester,NY.

 

[Frank Acampora]

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I think the original poster is missing the point: The size and power, thus amount of damage a wake can do is determined by the size of the boat and the horsepower driving it. Since the people who set restrictions KNOW that someone (of course, not everyone) with a high power engine will use it, even in a no wake zone and in the process also create noise pollution--it is inevitable, ask road police about speeders--they set a horsepower restriction. SIMPLE. Needs/rights of the many outweigh the needs/rights of the few.

Never underestimate the brainpower of us government types. (Me--USDA---Meat Police) While most of us have the IQ of a rock, together, we sometimes make sense.

 

[Crater]

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I have not missed the point.
If the regulating aut. (not always DNR or police) does not want to see a wake then post the lake as "NO WAKE" not "no wake and no motor over 9.9hp before easter" .PERIOD
I don't believe that noise polution is defined as the noise a engine makes either. larger engines can be louder but more than not (on these no wake lakes) it's people making more noise the there motors.
As a fisherman I say. "If I can't run my big motor then others better not run there big mouths or big sound systems either" but I guess by some peoples opinion I should be denied that right.
Bty It seem funny to me but wouldn't someone breaking the no/wake law/ordinace be breaking many laws? Like follow me on this one, If your creating a wake then you must be making too much noise also. And obviously if your overpowered then you must make too much noise and as the last poster said, are more likely to create a wake then someone that is "legal"

 

[JB]

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Forget it Crater. As we say in Texas, "Delaw am delaw". You want to make the law, run for office.

 

[Lion hunter]

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I'm sure there is a reason for it. You would need to find the law lanquage and read it. It may have been a 10hp and under lake to begin with and very clever individuals decided to put 9.9 cowls on their 15's and run around the lake faster than everyone else, or the big boats didn't abide by it and it took to much enforcement, hence a new law "No Wake".
Or it may have been an no wake lake that quickly crowded beyond capacity because everyone could bring any boat on it, so new law "No motors over 10hp". That would keep alot of people away.

The sad fact is, is that laws are not made to be enforced. There are just to many people on this earth to effectivly enforce laws. Laws are made to deter and hope that enforcement is not needed.

 

[cougar1985]

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Those that do not respect the rules of this board and start spouting political opinions will probably get "smitten".
It is quite possible those very same people caused restrictions on the use of lakes because of their abrasive attitudes while on those lakes.
Around here there are a few lakes that do not even have homes or agriculture near their shores.Only under 10 horse engines are allowed on these lakes.They also happen to be the main drinking water reservoirs for more than 2 million people and they are the property of the city of Rochester,NY.

it is 100 percent possible that ive never cause any problems on lakes or made any become limited my friend as we dont have 10 hp or no wake lakes around here period.im sorry if i got political or bashing ,but isnt it just that ?(political).i myself personally try to keep away from people when im out and about on the water as my only purpose out there is to fish not socalize.again im sorry if i hit a nerve with somebody and will try to keep it toned down .

 

[tx1961whaler]

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it is 100 percent possible that ive never cause any problems on lakes or made any become limited my friend as we dont have 10 hp or no wake lakes around here period.im sorry if i got political or bashing ,but isnt it just that ?(political).i myself personally try to keep away from people when im out and about on the water as my only purpose out there is to fish not socalize.again im sorry if i hit a nerve with somebody and will try to keep it toned down .

The sad fact is there are a great many people that are irresponsible and won't follow simple rules, hence the more draconian laws. I have a couple of kickers that I run on the restricted lakes, but you can bet your b u t t that I'd crank up the 40 HP in a heartbeat and go in slowly if an emergency arose. And I'd pay the fine without complaint if I got one.

 

[Crater]

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Couldn't agree more JB, but with a political view as such, would I get voted into office? Around here if you want something changed they just wait around and keep submiting the same thing until they have enough support or more so, hide there agenda until voting day when the opposition is unaware and spring it onto the ballet. Next thing you know we've lost another right or in our case a school. True story, a select group of people voted out 2 of the only southern residing school board members, replacing them with like minded people, then the board voted to close the school. Funny thing is that the majority of the schools population resides in the southern half of the school district, yet they closed the south school site. Go figure.
So a few can control the majority NOT as Frank Acampora says "Needs/rights of the many outweigh the needs/rights of the few."

But period amen let's put this to bed as it's seems to be just a argument at this point.