Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Dualie

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Hi everyone,<br />A couple of questions to throw out there!<br />I have a 20ft CC outboard & a ford explorer 4x4 6cyl auto.<br />1) My trailer has bunks, what is the best way to get the boat on the trailer before I haul it out.<br />a) do i manually crank it up?<br />b) i have heard to drive it up?<br />c) do i sink the trailer all the way under and try to place the hull perfectly under it??<br /><br />2)Also, the ramp isn't very steep, but I am sure that it will be wet. should I have it in 4WD and in "D" or a lower gear?<br /><br />3) SHould I strap the bow down and the gunwales down or just bow& stern straps for long distance towing.<br /><br />Any insight is much appreciated!!!! Thanks again!<br />dualie
 

springhead

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

This will be a trail and error on your part to see whats easier and how your boat loads on the trailer.Try this for now.<br />When the front bunks go under the water stop there and crank it on, hook the safety chain, if there is one.<br />Always use whatever straps came with the boat, whether there stern or gunwale. If you dont have a safety chain for the bow eye, i would strap the bow down with rope around around the cleats <br />then around the trailer post.<br />You have 4wd y not use it.<br />good luck
 

cvinroot

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

DUALIE, Congrats on the new boat. Just do it slowly and carefully, don't forget the plug too!! Some specific recommendations....<br /><br /><br />c) do i sink the trailer all the way under and try to place the hull perfectly under it?? <br /><br />DO NOT PLACE THE HULL UNDER IT. IF ANYTHING, PLACE THE HULL ON TOP OF IT. OTHERWISE, THE TRAILER WILL BE ON TOP OF THE BOAT!!!<br /><br />2)Also, the ramp isn't very steep, but I am sure that it will be wet. should I have it in 4WD and in "D" or a lower gear? <br /><br />4WD FOR SURE. MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF IN "D" OR LOWER, YOU WON'T BE GOING FAST ENOUGH (I HOPE) UP THE RAMP FOR YOUR SUV TO SHIFT UP. WHEN IN "D", IT STARTS IN THE LOWEST GEAR AND SHIFTS UP GRADUALLY AS YOU INCREASE SPEED.<br /><br />3) SHould I strap the bow down and the gunwales down or just bow& stern straps for long distance towing. <br /><br />STRAP EVERYTHING DOWN....<br /><br />Just put the back part of the trailer under until you can get the bow centered on the trailer, between the bunks. Wet the bunks down beforehand, makes it easier to slide on. Hopefully, you can crank it up from there, if not, back down just a little farther and try again. Don't back off the end of the ramp, hard to get up again :confused: , and don't put your exhaust pipe under water and, if you do by mistake, don't shut off the engine with it under water!<br /><br />Or, if you're feeling very frisky :rolleyes: , make a run at it at about 40 knots and put it on the trailer under power (not recommended!!!!)
 

fishingdan

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Have any friends that have or have had a trailer boat? Ask one of them to help you the first time and plan to take the boat out at a non-peak time (i.e. first thing weekend am or late afternoon weekend pm).<br /><br />My suggestions:<br />- Get a can of "Liquid Rollers" and spray your bunks. This will make loading and unloading easier.<br />- Disconnect your trailer light harness from the car before backing it into the water. <br />- Back the trailer in so that the bunks are partly in the water. On my trailer, I back until about 1 foot of the bunk under the water. <br />- Many ramps do not allow boaters to power the boat onto a trailer (creates a depression in the lake or sea bottom at the end of the ramp). Tie a line on the bow eye. Manually move the boat (easy if the ramp has an adjacent dock) so that the boat's bow is centered over the trailer center roller and between the bunks. Pull the boat up as far as you can, then attach the trailer winch strap or cable to the bow eye. Then crank her up. Lock the winch. Hop in the car and pull the boat out. <br />- At a minimum, you should secure the transom (2 straps) and the bow (1 strap) to your trailer with appropriate tie-downs. <br />- Each boat is different and you will need to find what works best for you.
 

mrpbass

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

If you have side guides, you can drive it on, just wet the bunks beforhand. As for 4x4, if the ramp is not steep, just put it low gear, drive 1 or 2, and use a technique i call power braking, that is put your left foot on the brake before you put it in gear, then increase the gas and let up on the brake and things should come out smothly.
 

wayne h

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

i would not power load till u are use to the boat and trailer. its too easy to mess up and cause alot of damage.crank it for now. take your time dont let any 1 rush u on the ramp.remeber its your boat and rushing could only lead to bad things. like stated above if u have time go there when its not busy and practice backing up, loading and unloading an extra set of eyes and hands is always good. also if u live close to the boat ramp why not go out there when it is busy and just watch and see how people do it. owning a boat is great and usually relaxing but the boat ramp can be very trying sometime not only with your rig but with people waiting to load and unload. if there is a coast gaurd station close u can take your boat there and have them inspect it and they usually put a sticker by the reg #'s i find that u will not get spot checked as often if u took the extra step and had it checked and stickered 1ns a year. every 1 on the water is out to have a good safe fun time.
 

fishweed

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Wayne made a very good suggestion. Go to the nearest boat ramp on a nice day with a lawn chair and a cooler and enjoy the show. You will get an idea of what to do and will see alot of what not to do.<br />Most all of us have done a "stupid human trick" with our boats at some time. Mostly because we got in a hurry. Be safe, relax, practice, and have fun.
 

umblecumbuz

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

And one small point ... once you've hauled your boat out, drive away from the ramp a little before you start snagging it down for the journey. Just good etiquette.
 

EZLoader

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

All of the above ideas are good. Here is my list (with some duplication)after 45 years of boating.<br />1) Before you leave home read up on trailer towing (ie - insure you have the proper tongue weight, use safety chains for trailer, use safety chain for boat, secure tie downs, always recheck all of your trailer lights before you drive off from home and from boat ramp, adjust your mirrors, check your car and boat tires, bearings and brakes).<br />2) Practice backing up your trailer up in a large, empty parking lot. When backing, you turn your steering wheel in the opposite direction you want the boat trailer to go. Just remember that to get the rear of the trailer going in the direction you want you must swing the front tongue in the opposite direction. Don't try to learn this on a busy and steep boat ramp with your wife and kids watching.<br />3) Take a seasoned boater along with you the first time out and ask lots of questions.<br />4) Safe boat launching and recovery requires that you follow the same sequenced procedures each time. A checklist would be a good thing for a novice. <br />- Before leaving home check your boat battery is fully charged.<br />- Put the boat drain plug back in the boat.<br />- Make sure all necessary gear is on board and is orderly and secure. <br />- Prepare one long or two shorter launching ropes to use later when launching and securing the boat to the dock. Prior to launching, tie one rope to the bow and another to the upwind side of the stern so that you can safely guide and control the boat while floating. <br />- Make sure to take your boat keys with you.<br />- Check your fuel, engine oil, spark plugs, etc. at home, not at the ramp.<br />- Upon arriving at the ramp, pull off to the side and park out of everyone elses way. <br />- Get out and survey the ramp conditions (ie - water level and depths, wind, currents, underwater obstructions, the condition of ramp paving (steepness, holes, rocks, slime), the length of ramp underwater before it drops off, the dock areas or beach areas to secure your boat to after launching).<br />- Don't be afraid to ask other boaters who know the ramp what you should know and need to look out for when launching there. Are there any obstructions near shore to avoid after launching, etc..<br />- Go back to your boat and begin your sequential process of preparing to launch. <br />-Secure lines on the bow and stern and place them on the bow so they are accessible at time of launch. <br />- Lift your motor up if it is down. <br />- Unplug your trailer lights to avoid blowing them if you intend to sink them at launch.<br />- Recheck the boat plug is in.<br />- Unhook your transom and side tie-downs. <br />- Leave your bow safety chain and bow winch cable secure.<br />- Make sure keys are in the boat's ignition.<br />- Put and secure whatever extra gear and/or supplies you brought for the day from the car into the boat.<br />- Look to see where you will be parking your car and trailer prior to launching.<br />- Have your helper ready to help guide you down and back once you are on the ramp.<br />- Show and tell your helper how far back you intend to go on the ramp and how deep on the trailer. Instruct your helper on how to hold the boat ropes after the launch and where you intend to tie up at the dock or shore.<br />- If the ramp is steep and slippery be sure to have chock blocks ready to put under the back car tires after you park at the bottom of the ramp. If it is too steep and slippery you may not even want to launch if your fear you can't get back up and out of the ramp. <br />- Take a last walk around, make sure everyone is alert and out of the way before pulling into line to launch.<br />- When it's your turn, pull ahead far enough to have your trailer fairly straight and in line with the ramp. Your helper should already be in position to direct you down the ramp as you backup. The helper must be alert to any dangers you can't see (ie- kids, other cars, obstructions on land and in the water,etc.) and be ready to alert you. This is where all your backing up practice comes into play. <br />- Don't go fast. Keep the boat trailer lined up and under control at all times. Guide the trailer to the spot you deemed safe and best to launch your boat. <br />- Near the water slow down and test your brakes to be sure you can stop. <br />-Ease the trailer back into the water no further than you absolutely have to be to launch the boat. With a roller trailer I never even got my wheel bearing wet. A bunk trailer usually must go back further.<br />- Stop the car, set your brakes and have your helper chock the car's rear wheels if necessary.<br />- Walk back to the winch and hand the boat launching and tie lines to your helper to hold. <br />- Unsecure the boat winch tower safety chain or cable.<br />- Uncrank some winch line and if its not too steep unhook it so you can push the boat off the trailer. If it's real steep and the boat could launch too fast use the winch to lower it to the water.<br />- Once the boat is afloat have the helper walk it over to the dock and/or shore to wait for you to return.<br />- Secure any excess winch line to the trailer, remove and store your back wheel chocks.<br />- Pull slowly and steadily up the ramp without spinning your wheels if possible.<br />- Park your car and trailer where you planned.<br />Try to back the trailer into a hill or obstruction if you are in an area where theft may be a concern. Make sure the trailer is locked on your ball and hitch.<br />- Check you car for any more gear or supplies you may have forgotten.<br />- Check that you have your keys and then lock the car up.<br />- Look around and remember where you parked. <br />- Walk down to the ramp or shore and have your helper hold the boat lines while you get in to lower the motor or outdrive.<br />- Secure your gear, hook up your gas line if necessary, run your blower fan to clear any gas fumes prior to ignition, check your bilge pump, check your instruments.<br />- Check that the motor is in neutral and that the motor area is safe and clear of people. <br />- Prime and choke the motor as necessary and fire it up. Let it warm up while you have your passengers board.<br />- Once everyone is secure, have your helper push and/or paddle you out to safe water for motoring. <br />- Proceed cautiously in unknown waters. I know a man who ran his brand new Evinrude motor into some low water rocks near the ramp on his first time ever out boating. He just assumed that they was never any danger to worry about. When he pulled up the motor to check it the lower unit was totally missing.<br />- Big caution...boats don't have brakes and continue to move fast after you cut the throttles. Approach the shore and docks slowly. Always try to approach from downwind to maintain better control. After a fast throttle down, your own boat wake will surf you along for quite some distance. Don't rely on using reverse to bail yourself out. Eventually you will screw up and crash your boat and either hurt yourself or someone else. <br /><br />-At the end of the day back at the dock, just reverse the above steps taken and you should be ok and on your way home. Before backing the trailer down the ramp, pull out your winch line far enough to secure to the boat. Click the winch lock and secure the winch line to the trailer. At the bottom rechock your back wheels.<br />- If possible without motoring over have your helper walk the boat lines over to you and stand up wind of the boat to guide the bow and stern lines so the boat is lined up straight with the trailer. Be sure the motor is up out of the water before pulling it up the trailer. <br />- Hook up the winch line and pull the boat onto the trailer. <br />-Resecure the winch safety cable/chain.<br />- Remove the wheel chocks and check to see that everyone is safely out of the way before heading slowly up the ramp without spinning your tires.<br />- Get off the ramp and park out of the way to secure you boat.<br />- Re-secure your transom and side tie downs. <br />- Pull your boat's drain plug for the ride home.<br />- Secure your boats gear for the road trip.<br />- Replug in your trailer lights but only after the light casings have drained out to avoid blowing the bulbs. Test all of the lights prior to leaving.<br />- Secure the motor in the up or down position.<br />- Make sure your boat ignition keys are turned off and secure.<br />- Recheck that you have all of your gear you may have taken out at the dock or shore.<br />- After a potty break and head count you should be ready to head home.<br />- At home, have your helper direct traffic and guide you into the driveway if you are backing in.<br /><br />It is important that everyone in your boating party take safety and procedures seriously. As the captain you are the one responsible for their safety instruction and setting down the rules for the day. Don't let some goof off spoil your boating fun. Also beware that other idiots are out there not practicing safe launching or boating. Give them instruction and advise if possible and otherwise steer clear of them. <br /><br />Always be considerate of other boaters (on the ramp and on the water). Don't be a ramp hog!!!<br />Do your boat prep work at home or off to the side so that your actual ramp time is very short.<br />I take pride in keeping my ramp time under just a couple of minutes at most. With a pre-planned, systematic process you shouldn't need much longer than that.<br /><br />Sorry for the lengthy checklist. Over time this all becomes 2nd nature. Good luck!
 

EZLoader

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

An important followup to my previous post. After reading it again, I see I forgot to mention the importance of the currents (as well as the winds) when approaching a dock or shore for landing. Both are equally important. You should always try to approach your landing from the downwind/down current position if possible. With the wind and current to your face you can maintain better control of your boat and its speed. With the wind and/or current to your back you are at their mercy so use extra caution and keep your speed down way ahead of your final approach. When the current and/or wind is behind you try to use them to slowly drift into your final landing position while using your motor for extra guidance.<br /><br />Old Trailor Sailor
 

bdirect

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Dulaie<br />The items above cover it very well. i might just pass on some very good advice an experianced person gave me when i moved up to a 24ft boat. He told me to always remember that this is my boat and my money invested in it. No matter how busy the ramp or how much pressure i feel to hurry up take all the time I need to insure my boat, my truck and the people with me are safe and nothing goes bad. I have a deep v hull it needs to be just about perfect to not lean on the trailer. I went to the ramp with the person that is with me most of the time and we practiced putting it in the water and taking it out. it realy only took about 6 times before we found "the sweet spot" to position the trailer for haul out. I always start my engine before taking it off the trailer.I always stop to check the boat position on the trailer before i pull completly up the ramp. If it is not right i back it down and re-center it. This has only happened once when the wind was blowing very hard.
 

Dualie

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

You guys are unbeleivable!! I can't beleive the hits on my question. Very detailed and precise- I like it!<br /><br />I agree and I will take my time and do it right and hopefully everything cooperates ie: wind, current, trailer bunks and people around the ramp.<br />Thanks EZ and the rest of the people adding insight to my newbie questions.<br />Cheers!<br />D
 

Solittle

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

I kinda read through this quickly so my input maybe already here. I pulled a 23' CC for 12 yrs with an Explorer 6 cyl 2 wheel drive. I always carry a long heavy chain (with hooks on both ends)in case I can't get up the ramp for whatever reason. Other boaters are more than happy to give me that extra pull and it takes seconds to attach the chain to the front end of the Explorer and the back end of another boaters empty trailer (or whatever).
 

Dualie

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Everything was successful this weekend. I had a friend with a sweet truck that helped me pull it out.We did some of the things that were described above and we were out in no time. Seemed a lot easier that I thought it would be.<br /><br />Thanks for all the help! <br />-D
 

jlinder

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Let me add one suggestion: Take a class. The local power squadron should have classes you can take for free that will cover boating safety, rules of the road, etc. Especially if you are new to boating. <br /><br />They will also do a VSC - vessel safety check. They look over the boat and will point out safety things you may have overlooked. It is a good thing to get done, will help you make sure you are legal and safe, and is free. Don't worry about not passing. It is not a legal requirement to pass, just a smart one. If they find problems they will guide you on how to correct them. Just do it and get a recheck.
 

chugger

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

I suggest getting a pair of hip-wadders for those times when things just don't go right.
 

bdirect

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Ahhhh yes hip waders. Got to have them. I told my wife when it gets cold enough I will get her some. Right now I think the water is warm enough for her to still wade :rolleyes:
 

rwidman

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Go to the ramp without the boat on a busy day. Watch other people load and unload their boats. Notice what works and what doesn't.<br /><br />Take your rig to an empty parking lot and practice backing between the lines.
 

njlarry

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

With a bunk trailer I find I don't have to back the rig as far when retreiving as when launching-bunks are over 3/4 submerged launching and only 1/4 when retreiving-the winch can pull her up easier than I can push her off.<br />I always chock the left front wheel for peace of mind, it has a rope that loops around the outside mirror so I can pull it in as I drive up the ramp. <br />Be careful your trailer wheels do not go over the edge of the ramp or you might pull the axle off with too much power.<br />It gets easier very quickly.
 

fondafj

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Re: Need advice on taking boat out of the water with trailer- first timer

Originally posted by EZLoader:<br /> An important followup to my previous post. After reading it again, I see I forgot to mention the importance of the currents (as well as the winds) when approaching a dock or shore for landing. Both are equally important. You should always try to approach your landing from the downwind/down current position if possible. With the wind and current to your face you can maintain better control of your boat and its speed. With the wind and/or current to your back you are at their mercy so use extra caution and keep your speed down way ahead of your final approach. When the current and/or wind is behind you try to use them to slowly drift into your final landing position while using your motor for extra guidance.<br /><br />Old Trailor Sailor
Good advice.... and at the wide ramps that allow power loading pay attention to the prop wash from the other boats loading!
 
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