My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

JoLin

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It started in September, when after 20 years of every-few-years discussions about buying a boat, the wife and I decided to go ahead and do it. Though my dad had one when I was a kid I'd never owned one myself, so first order of business was to choose a type. It had to be small enough to learn on, big enough to take some rough weather (Great South Bay), and it needed to have a cabin of some type for planned overnighters at Fire Island. After struggling to climb through the forward hatch of several conventional cuddies (only means of reaching the bow), we decided a walk-around was the way to go. My 54-year-old frame just isn't as limber as it once was!

A few weeks of looking turned up a 21-foot Pro-Line. It's a little bigger than I wanted from a learning perspective, but it has a nice deep-V hull and a good reputation. It's 20 years old and in decent shape. Came equipped with a '97 Johnson 175 with 2-year-old powerhead rebuild. Started and ran well, so I pulled the trigger and had it towed to my house and set on blocks in the driveway.

Next step- a trailer. Though I'm going to dock the boat next season and have procured a place for it, I didn't want to rely on towing services when it needed to go in and come out of the water. I also think that in time I'll want to expand my boating horizons, so a trailer of my own seemed like a good idea. I kept an eye on Craigslist and spotted a 2004 Shoreland'r aluminum tandem roller trailer for a grand less than a new one. Checked it out and it was really clean and in good shape. I put a deposit on it, and when I came home and checked the Shoreland'r web site, I found out that it's the exact model that they recommend for my boat! I had the marina that was selling it, transport my boat to their place and fit the trailer to it. My neighbor hauled it home for me and said it towed beautifully.

Two pieces of the puzzle in place, one more to go! No point in having a boat and trailer unless you can pull 'em, right?

In late November I started looking around again. After posting a couple of questions here in iboats and getting some great advice, I decided that a long-wheelbase, V-8 powered something-or-other was the way to go and started my search. After checking out several trucks and SUV's, I stumbled on one that I'd gone to look at just for the heck of it, as it was a little older and cheaper than I wanted. I bought a '96 Chevy K-1500 (4x4) pickup with a 305 c.i. Vortek V-8 and push-button 4wd. Equipped with the factory tow package. Though it has 135K miles on it, it's in really nice shape. In the words of my mechanic when he went over it- "wow. somebody took care of this thing."

I took the whole shebang out for a test tow a few days ago. All in all, pretty good! The motor is torquey and handles the weight okay. Might not be the greatest combo if I lived in the mountains, but it accelerated the boat and trailer pretty briskly to highway speed. The whole rig tracked and braked beautifully, and I never got the impression that I was being "pushed around."

The only negative was a stretch of highway where the expansion strips in the road are very noticeable. The truck started to porpoise a little- not enough to make me feel nervous at all, but annoying. I didn't like the feeling of being unbalanced. Yesterday, I installed a light duty (1000 lb capacity) helper spring set in back and a new set of Monroe Sensa-Track shocks all around. I haven't re-hitched the boat yet (bad weather), but I did take the truck back out on that same stretch of highway. It doesn't ride any harder than it did before, and the previous "harshness" when I hit those bumps, is gone. The new shocks really snub it down great. By Jove, I think I've got it!

So, where's Spring already ?!?
 

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

that truck should be fine, i assume the trailer has brakes. i tow 5,000 with a 1500 surburban, 5.7, no problems.
 

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

Thanks for your story . . . kinda fun reading it while staring outside while 6 inches of snow is coming down here :(

Nice choice on the hull design. It reminds me of a similar 20 year old design the "Starcraft Islander" model. When ever I see one of these criuise by me I always say to myself now that's a nice design . . . cuddy, decent power and the ability to handle big water.

Congrats on your new boat. I would take a 4th step for the safety
since the motor is 10 years old and the hull is 20. I'd bring it to a dealer at some point over the winter (if you get clear to tow it) and have them inspect the hull for structure and let them service the motor. Wouldn't be much fun to hit the water in April or May and find something needs a part that might be backordered!

Lastly, I'd surf around the various threads here and read about the importance of either upgrading or equip it with at least a combo GPS/depthfinder fishfinder (so you don't run aground) and a decent VHF radio.

Take a CG boating course too over the winter. My Wife and I took one and we both learned a lot!
 

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

Story makes some good reading. Nice job taking ur time and doing the footwork!! No sense jumping into something like this unprepared. You really have to figure out what u want/need and spend time investigating. The sales people don't like it when u do that, but I say "who's $$ is buying this"? lol. I remember how excited I was when I made the phone call to get my new (well new to me) boat. Didn't matter to me that it is a "fixer upper", it's cheaper than new and the hull is sound. Anyway....good choice on the towing vehicle too. Secret.....having been a Master Chevy tech, I can tell u that the Vortec series engines are well known for low end torque. That 305 should do fine AND be fair on gas! I personally tow my boat with an '04 Grand Cherokee with a 4.0 inline 6 cylinder, automatic. It's pretty much a Cadillac of an s.u.v. having all the bells and whistles and GREAT 4x4 capabilities (it goes down the beach smooth as silk), but that 6 cylinder does awesome on gas....even when towing. And, oddly enuf...what hills we do have around here, it pulls that boat like it's not even there..no struggling AND gets 23 mpg WHILE towing!! Gotta love it!! So anyway....great outfit ya got there!!! "so where's spring already?"......I ask the same question. The GREAT news is....I have the winter to do my project boat which will make winter FLY by :D. By the time I'm done, it'll be time to hitch up, move out and chase the fish outta the water and onto my deck!! My son has already FIRMLY stated he "can't wait":). Gotta love it!!!

Chris
 

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

Congrats on your new boat. I would take a 4th step for the safety
since the motor is 10 years old and the hull is 20. I'd bring it to a dealer at some point over the winter (if you get clear to tow it) and have them inspect the hull for structure and let them service the motor. Wouldn't be much fun to hit the water in April or May and find something needs a part that might be backordered!

Lastly, I'd surf around the various threads here and read about the importance of either upgrading or equip it with at least a combo GPS/depthfinder fishfinder (so you don't run aground) and a decent VHF radio.

Take a CG boating course too over the winter. My Wife and I took one and we both learned a lot!

The CG course is finished. Both wife and I completed it a couple weeks ago, and we've taken the additional step of joining the local Power Squadron. It was at least partly refresher for me, as I'd taken the same course some 40 years ago! Dare I mention that I'm the only person in anyone's recollection to have scored 100% on the final exam?

I'm a halfway competent mechanic, and I've checked the motor out myself, compression tested it, winterized it and rebuilt the water pump. My neighbor (lifetime boater and police officer in the county marine bureau) and I have been all over the hull inside and out- it looks good.

As for the electronics, I definitely want a GPS at some point, but for the moment I want to refamiliarize myself with charts and compass. I used to know 'em pretty well. The boat came with an old depthfinder that I resurrected and good working VHF. That'll do for the first season. GPS is great as long as you know what to do when it quits.
 

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

The CG course is finished. Both wife and I completed it a couple weeks ago, and we've taken the additional step of joining the local Power Squadron. It was at least partly refresher for me, as I'd taken the same course some 40 years ago! Dare I mention that I'm the only person in anyone's recollection to have scored 100% on the final exam?

I'm a halfway competent mechanic, and I've checked the motor out myself, compression tested it, winterized it and rebuilt the water pump. My neighbor (lifetime boater and police officer in the county marine bureau) and I have been all over the hull inside and out- it looks good.

As for the electronics, I definitely want a GPS at some point, but for the moment I want to refamiliarize myself with charts and compass. I used to know 'em pretty well. The boat came with an old depthfinder that I resurrected and good working VHF. That'll do for the first season. GPS is great as long as you know what to do when it quits.

Looks like you've got it covered! Enjoy the boat when the Spring comes and post a few pics :D
 

boatflounder

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

As a professional mariner I give you great kudos for wanting to refamiliarize yourself with the chart and compass. It scares me how many of the younger guys on the ships just rely on the computer charts and gps and never put a position on paper, now im only 36 but I prefer the old ways on the ship.

That being said a GPS is DEFINITELY woth it on a 21 foot boat! I just bought a 22' this year and the gps unit has been a lifesaver, it allows me to run places that would take forever to get throuugh if i was trying to plot my way around the reefs, if i could find a place to put a chart out. Now I always have a paper chart with me but it is a fishing map not a noaa chart. and while it gives me enough to get home on if the gps dies the gps allows me to relax and enjoy the trip. definitely worth the few hundred bucks.
 

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Your not kidding about that GPS thing. 2 seasons ago was my first season saltwater fishing and i was using a little handheld type gps that mounts to the dash. Its an older one but you could set waypoints so that you can find your way back. Well a friend and I get out in the middle of the bay and fish for an hour or so and just drift fished. Well i didnt know that the gps unit had a little battery like a watch battery in there so that it would save the info you inputed into it. At the time it was pluged into the cigarette lighter plug in the dash. My cell phone was beeping cause the battery was about to die. I unplug the gps and plug in my phone and made a call and forgot to plug the gps back in. Well when it was time to leave I go to pull up the "ramp" waypoint on the gps and it was no longer there. I had NO IDEA WHAT TO DO NOW!!! After i get done cursing and throwing **** around we start looking around and can see nothing! My friend had only been on a bass boat a couple times in like 60 acre ponds and could just walt to the side of the pond, never anything like this. So what now there is no compass and i didnt know how to use the gps compass so im screwed. We decide to just pick a direction and just go. We got lucky as hell as we came somewhat close to where we put in. I had to get gas at the ramp we ended up at which was 12-15 miles north of the ramp we had used but we got back ok riding close to the shoreline. I now keep a compass onboard.
 

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GPS is great as long as you know what to do when it quits.


That's an easy one, you just boot up the hand held backup ... ;)
 

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

It started in September, when after 20 years of every-few-years discussions about buying a boat, the wife and I decided to go ahead and do it. Though my dad had one when I was a kid I'd never owned one myself, so first order of business was to choose a type. It had to be small enough to learn on, big enough to take some rough weather (Great South Bay), and it needed to have a cabin of some type for planned overnighters at Fire Island. After struggling to climb through the forward hatch of several conventional cuddies (only means of reaching the bow), we decided a walk-around was the way to go. My 54-year-old frame just isn't as limber as it once was!

A few weeks of looking turned up a 21-foot Pro-Line. It's a little bigger than I wanted from a learning perspective, but it has a nice deep-V hull and a good reputation. It's 20 years old and in decent shape. Came equipped with a '97 Johnson 175 with 2-year-old powerhead rebuild. Started and ran well, so I pulled the trigger and had it towed to my house and set on blocks in the driveway.

Next step- a trailer. Though I'm going to dock the boat next season and have procured a place for it, I didn't want to rely on towing services when it needed to go in and come out of the water. I also think that in time I'll want to expand my boating horizons, so a trailer of my own seemed like a good idea. I kept an eye on Craigslist and spotted a 2004 Shoreland'r aluminum tandem roller trailer for a grand less than a new one. Checked it out and it was really clean and in good shape. I put a deposit on it, and when I came home and checked the Shoreland'r web site, I found out that it's the exact model that they recommend for my boat! I had the marina that was selling it, transport my boat to their place and fit the trailer to it. My neighbor hauled it home for me and said it towed beautifully.

Two pieces of the puzzle in place, one more to go! No point in having a boat and trailer unless you can pull 'em, right?

In late November I started looking around again. After posting a couple of questions here in iboats and getting some great advice, I decided that a long-wheelbase, V-8 powered something-or-other was the way to go and started my search. After checking out several trucks and SUV's, I stumbled on one that I'd gone to look at just for the heck of it, as it was a little older and cheaper than I wanted. I bought a '96 Chevy K-1500 (4x4) pickup with a 305 c.i. Vortek V-8 and push-button 4wd. Equipped with the factory tow package. Though it has 135K miles on it, it's in really nice shape. In the words of my mechanic when he went over it- "wow. somebody took care of this thing."

I took the whole shebang out for a test tow a few days ago. All in all, pretty good! The motor is torquey and handles the weight okay. Might not be the greatest combo if I lived in the mountains, but it accelerated the boat and trailer pretty briskly to highway speed. The whole rig tracked and braked beautifully, and I never got the impression that I was being "pushed around."

The only negative was a stretch of highway where the expansion strips in the road are very noticeable. The truck started to porpoise a little- not enough to make me feel nervous at all, but annoying. I didn't like the feeling of being unbalanced. Yesterday, I installed a light duty (1000 lb capacity) helper spring set in back and a new set of Monroe Sensa-Track shocks all around. I haven't re-hitched the boat yet (bad weather), but I did take the truck back out on that same stretch of highway. It doesn't ride any harder than it did before, and the previous "harshness" when I hit those bumps, is gone. The new shocks really snub it down great. By Jove, I think I've got it!

So, where's Spring already ?!?

Somebody must be living right. This is a textbook of how to buy a rig. Kudos, good luck and post pictures when you can.

Godspeed!
 

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Re: My Rig Is Now Complete! (Sorry, it's a little long)

Congrats on your "New to You" rig. Sounds like you did it all the right way - and got a Johnnyrude and a Chevy, it don't get much better than that! :D
 
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