Muskies?

itsaboattime

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
791
I have been fishing my whole life. Grandpa got me started when I was about 8. I have caught cats, bass, panfish, walleye, striper, carp, and suckers.
I have never caught a muskie or pike. I don't know much about them.
Where do I begin to outfit myself for them? What are their habitats? Baits? Techniques for fishing them?
There are a couple good "muskie" lakes near me. Morrison-Rockwood state park and Shabbona lake. Shabbona is way over fished by Chicago people. I have been told the Mississippi holds a fair sized Muskie population, but I don't even know where to begin to look for them.
Anybody have any advice for a novice?
 

sasto

Captain
Joined
Jun 1, 2010
Messages
3,918
Re: Muskies?

Maybe WIMUSKY, aspeck....and several others....will chime in on this one. I want one too!
 

JB

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
45,907
Re: Muskies?

There have been entire books written about muskies and musky fishing that don't come close to answering all of your questions, itsabouttime.

My advice is to hire a guide for several trips before you start spending the bux needed to be an equipped musky hunter. I caught my first musky on a Zebco 808 spincast rig and an 18S Rapala. Even now, thousands of bux and a million or so casts later, I have caught more muskies on Mepps spinners and a lure that I made out of one than all other baits combined. The 18cm floating Rapalas probably come second.

Musky gurus would look at my stuff and my techniques and declare them amateurish. So what?

jb with musky.jpgDLC '09.jpg
 

rockyrude

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
Sep 10, 2007
Messages
1,120
Re: Muskies?

This is only scratching the surface, google musky, learn about the fish. Then you can understand where to find them. The tackle will come later.
 

1980Galaxy

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Apr 11, 2009
Messages
339
Re: Muskies?

You will get one when you least expect it... haha. They will attack anything and aren't scared. Try bigger lures: cranks, spinnerbaits, bucktails.

Once you get one on the end of your line, HANG ON... they are a blast.
 

itsaboattime

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
791
Re: Muskies?

There have been entire books written about muskies and musky fishing that don't come close to answering all of your questions, itsabouttime.

My advice is to hire a guide for several trips before you start spending the bux needed to be an equipped musky hunter. I caught my first musky on a Zebco 808 spincast rig and an 18S Rapala. Even now, thousands of bux and a million or so casts later, I have caught more muskies on Mepps spinners and a lure that I made out of one than all other baits combined. The 18cm floating Rapalas probably come second.

Musky gurus would look at my stuff and my techniques and declare them amateurish. So what?

View attachment 142769View attachment 142771

Whatever works JB!! I've caught bass on just about anything you can tie onto a line. I'm not lookin to win any kind of award for doin it "right". I just want to learn how, and catch some fish. Thought maybe I could get a few pointers here.
 

Fishsqueezer

Cadet
Joined
Apr 5, 2012
Messages
28
Re: Muskies?

I think you may want a rod that's heavy weight with a medium to medium-fast action, around 7 - 8 ft. If you really get into it, you may end up tossing some pretty hefty baits, so take that heavy lure weight into consideration. Most serious muskie anglers will choose a casting setup over a spinning rod. Make sure your rod and reel combo feels good in your palm, because musky fishing involves endless casting (unless you can troll for them, which is a very deadly tactic also). I would use 40 lb. braided line with a wire leader leader at least 12 inches long if not longer. What to use for bait, now that's so variable you could spend a dozen lifetimes figuring that out. As stated, the Mepps and Rapala are surefire standby baits for both species.

Doing your homework in regards to the particular body of water you will fish is paramount. Talk to local bait shops, and talk to all of them. It's in their best interest to help you catch fish, so they'll often have a wealth of knowledge to share. Learn the body of water you want to fish and learn it well. Get a detailed bathymetric map and study it, taking note of key structures like creek channels running through a shallow flat with weeds on the edge where it drops off into deeper water, river mouths with current bringing food into the lake, rocky bars and pinnacles isolated from the shore and protruding up from deeper water, etc... Find good cover, like cabbage weeds, and shorelines that are littered with downed trees, fish cribs, and the like.

Also contact the local agencies who carry out research and management where you intend to fish (i.e., Dept. of Fish & Game, Natural Resources, etc...). Ask to speak with the research biologist that handles the field work and actually works out on the water. If you're lucky, you may even find someone who works primarily with muskies and pike. It is ideal when you can find someone who has done hands on work with the fish instead of a "desk biologist". Field biologists will often be able to tell you where they have personally had the most luck netting or electrofishing and when. They will likely have data on "catch per unit effort" or CPUE which can tell you where and when your efforts are most likely to be met with reward. Some agencies even examine stomach contents when sampling a fishery, which is invaluable when choosing what bait to use. Nothing gives better proof of what the muskies eat on a particular body of water than pumping their stomachs. My point is that biologists are a gold mine of information and most are more than willing to aid anglers.

That being said, it's not always so simple. The very best thing a musky angler can do is spend as much time as possible on the water. A healthy dose of luck never hurts either! Strange things happen in fishing and you never know for sure what could work. Sometimes, it's the least likely thing that ends up being a hot lure, so try anything you feel like using. I've seen people catch 20 lb pike in Alaska by literally hooking an empty Budwiser can and tossing it into the shallow horsetails, and also seen similar pike taken from Lake Superior on tiny 1/16 oz. jigs. I once saw my friend land a respectable musky on a rubber worm while fishing for largemouth bass, casting from shore at a boat landing in northern Wisconsin.

Just fish a lot where they live and you will eventually catch one. Good luck, and tight lines!
 

Ray1958

Cadet
Joined
Aug 10, 2010
Messages
29
Re: Muskies?

Try Heidecke right out of Morris. All lakes within 300 miles of chicago are way over pressured. Decent Musky fishing along the shore line that houses the launch, and actually the only habitat on the lake that looks like musky habitat. Decent Walleye fishing as well. As for gear, longer rods help take some fatigue out of tossing those big baits,and many guys will not even consider a rod less than 8'. don't skimp on the reel, musky will fry a cheap drag faster that any fish alive. You can spend thousands on musky gear very easily.I've caught most on shad raps and spinners fishing for bass and walleye.

Ray
 

itsaboattime

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
791
Re: Muskies?

Thanks all!!
Fishsqueezer....That's why they call it "fishing"...If it were easy they'd call it "catching". LOL.
I have printed this entire thread and will be practically memorizing it. I have found some really good info around the web and have contacted the IDNR and they are sending me maps of some of the more muskie and pike friendly lakes and rivers here in northern Illinois. As for my gear, well, I haven't even started that adventure yet. I do already have a pretty hefty rod that I picked up for a lake Michigan trip a few years ago. Used it for a week and it has been gathering dust in the closet ever since.
40 lb braided line is on the shopping list along with a few other lures that I have learned about.
Thanks again for the info guys!!
 

Fishsqueezer

Cadet
Joined
Apr 5, 2012
Messages
28
Re: Muskies?

Another thing I forgot to mention is to make sure that all the baits you use for muskies have strong split rings and hooks. It would suck to hook a big fish and have your hook straighten out or your split ring open up. Most baits made for bass and walleyes come with bronze hooks and weak split rings not suited for landing muskies and big pike. It never hurts to replace the split rings with stainless steel ones made for salt water angling, and replace the bronze hooks with 2X or 3X strong treble hooks. Of course, the hooks should be dangerously, frighteningly sharp. I like Mustad 3X strong, but only after I've put a proper point on them. Like many hooks, they are only moderately sharp from the box and usually require honing to be sticky sharp.

I also second the remarks about a quality reel with a good drag. A strong, functional, and lasting drag is a must for battling big fish of any species when modern braided lines are used. Braids do not stretch like monofilament does, and this puts all the work on your rod blank and the drag when an angry fish blasts away from boatside in an explosive run.

After all the money which most hard-core muskie anglers spend chasing tail, it would probably be cheaper to just dig a pond, put a few muskies in it and start live-trapping red squirrels to fatten them up with!
 
Top