Gottcha Quietcat. That's what I was loooking for but I did not understand the 'table' option. I just checked it out and you can quickly tell it just what you want. Knew it had to be there somewhere. <br />Thanks <br />B'yal<br /><br />ps, I did end up doing what I needed to with columns. What a pain in the behind when it came to vertical spacing of the text groups.Originally posted by Quietcat:<br /> I would not use Columns. I would set-up a four cell table. You can have the table set with invisible lines. This is very easy. My experience with Columns is that they are more difficult to work with than a Table. Good luck!!