Moving batteries, What gauge cable to use?

MagicHour805

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I'm running a 175hp Yamaha O/B and my batteries are currently located back near the transom. I'm re-locating the batteries into the cabin and the cable route is ~25' total with the corners and bends. Im having trouble finding out the amount of amp draw from my starter to figure out what gauge cable I will need. I've had a few people estimate 2 gauge. All input is appreciated!
 

bruceb58

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Re: Moving batteries, What gauge cable to use?

I would first ask why do you want to relocate?

Is 25' the length for each cable, negative and positive?

What gauge and length are your current cables?
 

Georgesalmon

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Re: Moving batteries, What gauge cable to use?

I think 2 might be overkill. Bigger is better though. I would go one size larger than the size on the motor. Probably 6 or 4 would be fine. Make sure you have ventilation where you are moving them to. Batteries give off explosive gas when they charge. Remember the Hindenburg
 

colbyt

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Re: Moving batteries, What gauge cable to use?

There are DC amperage guides online that factor in the full circuit. There are about the same as AC loads. You just need to determine the total amp draw and go from there. A bigger wire never huts so err on the side of bigger. And just in case you don't know, the smaller the number the bigger the wire. It will be bigger than you think.
 

bruceb58

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Re: Moving batteries, What gauge cable to use?

There are DC amperage guides online that factor in the full circuit. There are about the same as AC loads.
Completely different for this application. His current is going to remain the same.

What I would do is figure out the amount of resistance for the number of feet he currently has and size the new cable to have the equivalent resistance.
 

Todd4

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Re: Moving batteries, What gauge cable to use?

I've recently done this, so I'll comment on my experiences.

1) You'll have trouble getting an accurate amp draw for your starter. Partially, because the weaker the battery, the higher the amp draw. This really only comes into play if you do NOT have a dedicated start battery. (It sounds like you do). But for boats that don't (that have only one battery) their amp draw will vary significantly, depending on how discharged the battery becomes. A clamp-on amp meter will tell you how many amps you're pulling when you have a fully charged battery.

2) If you put them in the cabin you either need to put them in a sealed space, vented to the outside, or use gell batteries that do not vent hydrogen gas into a confined space. USCG regs spell it all out.

3) There are charts on-line (ABYC) that calculate the wire size needed for marine applications (but you still need to know your total amps). Remember the wire length is always the length TO the battery PLUS the length BACK to ground (essentially, it doubles). Here is one I just Googled: http://sailboatstuff.com/images/Imtra_Wiring Recommendations.pdf

My outboard used 1 gage from the factory, so when I moved my batteries (~20') I upped it one size and installed 1/0, as suggested above. Overkill? Probably, but I don't ever worry about it cranking. :)

I bought all my wire and end connectors, etc. from greg's marine wire, just because they were recommended on this site. I was pleased with their service (I bought a lot of little things, in a bunch of different gauges and lengths; and my order was correct/complete).

Todd
 

bruceb58

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Re: Moving batteries, What gauge cable to use?

Using the chart referenced in the previous post(even though the current can be way more than 100A), if the OP was going from a 20' round trip to a 50' round trip, the wire gauge size would need to move 2 sizes assuming 10% allowable voltage drop. That is why I would not move the battery. Another reason is that in the stern of the boat, the battery is subject to way less pounding.

This is where I would buy the cables if you decide to go that way.
They may also have recommendations based on your current length and gauge wire.
http://genuinedealz.com/
 
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