Minn. Cracks Down on Underpriced Gasoline

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Minn. Cracks Down on Underpriced Gasoline :confused: <br /><br />Posted on May 28 at 6:58 PM<br /><br />By PATRICK HOWE, Associated Press Writer <br /><br />ST. PAUL - Just in time for Memorial Day weekend, Minnesota's Commerce Department (news - web sites) is cracking down on service stations over the price of gasoline. The problem: Some stations aren't charging enough. <br /><br />Under Gov. Jesse Ventura, the state adopted a law in 2001 that prohibits gas stations from selling gas without taking a minimum profit. These days, they must charge at least 8 cents per gallon, plus taxes, more than they paid for it. <br /><br />On Friday, the Commerce Department announced a $70,000 fine against Arkansas-based Murphy Oil for breaking the law at its 10 stations in the state, based at Wal-Mart stores and elsewhere. They also fined Kwik Trip Inc. $5,000 for violations at one station in Apple Valley. <br /><br />The two are the first fines levied under the law, which is similar to minimum-price laws in about a dozen states. Another two dozen have broader laws banning predatory pricing. <br /><br />"The Legislature makes the law, and we enforce the law," said Carol Hockert, director of the department's weights and measures division. <br /><br />It's her job to investigate alleged violations of the law, and there are plenty. <br /><br />Hockert said she receives as many as 100 complaints a week, mostly from competitors convinced neighboring stations aren't charging enough. <br /><br />In many cases they're wrong — the wholesale price changes day to day, and often one station might still be selling gas in its reserves that it bought at a cheaper price while its competitor only has newer, higher-priced gas to sell. <br /><br />But stations turn over their supply fast, Hockert said, and if a station continually sells gasoline for less than what the department knows the wholesaler sold it for, she investigates. <br /><br />"If $1.95 was legal yesterday, they get the benefit of the doubt," she said. "If $1.95 hasn't been a legal price for two weeks, then clearly it's a violation." <br /><br />Complaints have risen right along with gas prices, she said. <br /><br />According to AAA, gasoline is about 60 cents higher this Memorial Day weekend than last. The average price of gas in Minnesota is $2.02.
 

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I guess it must be Minnesota's socialist sense of 'fairness'. All brought to you by the likes of the late, not so great, Paul Wellstone!
 

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He corrected us when he was Governor. It is not Jesse the Body Ventura it is Jesse the Mind Ventura. As Bugs Bunny would say. "What a maroon"
 

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AAAhhh Yep, You can get in a hole lot more trouble for underpricing than you can get in for gouging. Go figure...
 

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Originally posted by neumanns:<br /> AAAhhh Yep, You can get in a hole lot more trouble for underpricing than you can get in for gouging. Go figure...
Seems I remember a quote from somewhere, hmmm let me see. It went something like this:<br />"things that are up will be called down and things that are down will be called up" I'm sure that I have paraphrased a bit, but ya'll get the point.
 

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LMAO.. What a maroon....<br /><br />
things that are up will be called down and things that are down will be called up
Hey, thats kinda Rumsfeldesque... Ya know, like the "unknown knowns" and such... :D
 

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There are specific reasons why predatory pricing laws can indeed be important. Someone with deep pockets (like a Walmart) can come in to a market, drive all the competition out in a necessary commodity, and then charge what they will when they get the monopoly in a market. Unfortunately businesses and stockholders will not accept companies selling stuff for less than it costs them for long, and will only accept it if there is some underlying strategy why it is a good idea. And companies and stockholders are not generally renowned, nor should they be, for their benevolent behavior. <br />Without such laws, it would surely happen--it happens even with such laws, and keeps Attorney General's and the FTC busy all the time keeping track of it...
 

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Well Wal-Mart don't care to much.<br />About 6 year ago or so, they came in over here by the house where there was already a Big K-Mart shopping center that had all kinds of shops and stuff in it.<br /><br />Today, Sears is still there and the rest sets empty cause Wal-Mart came in and with real low prices on everything, pushed all the other shops out. K-Mart was history along with several food stores.<br /><br />Then lo and behold, the prices went back up to where they were higher than they were before they got there.<br /><br />Wonder where the government was then to stop that?
 

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Originally posted by SBN:<br /> Well Wal-Mart don't care to much.<br />About 6 year ago or so, they came in over here by the house where there was already a Big K-Mart shopping center that had all kinds of shops and stuff in it.<br /><br />Today, Sears is still there and the rest sets empty cause Wal-Mart came in and with real low prices on everything, pushed all the other shops out. K-Mart was history along with several food stores.<br /><br />Then lo and behold, the prices went back up to where they were higher than they were before they got there.<br /><br />Wonder where the government was then to stop that?
Your not kidding SBN. It seems to be happening everywhere you go. It used to be you could travel all around this country and see all kinds of neat little towns, all different in their own way. Now they all are starting to look the same,Closed down mom and pop stores right down the street from Wallmart ,Homedepot ,Staples ,Lowes ,ETC,ETC. Strip stores everywhere. One bland tired landscape state after state town after town. <br /><br />The neat little towns are still there but they are fewer and farther between, usually far from the beaten path.<br /><br />I cant remember who said it but how true is this "Go see America now before it disappears"<br /><br />Sorry off topic a bit here.
 

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Do yourselves a favor and try not to buy from the big soapbox stores, that is, if you cherish the towns in which you live.
 

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The law does seem ridiclous that gas price is too low. But it is exactly what was said that it is to stop a monopoly.<br /><br />And yes, I have to agree with Flathead that little town are disappearing. <br /><br />I travel for work in the U.S. quite alot. I'm usually in the 'burbs and yes Boston (N.H.), Richmond, V.A., Long Beach etc. etc. are all starting to look the same. <br /><br />Guess what, 5 years ago, when first going to the U.S. I loved the shopping and didn't understand the impact. Now, my 'burbs look just like your burbs. All big box stores Walmart, HomeDeopt, Costco etc. etc. just like any other place.
 

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I want to lean the other way here just a bit. The big stores like Wal-Mart aren't necessarily a bad thing, especially when compared to some of the higher-priced stores. Raley's sells a 6-pack of soda for 2.59, while that same brand name sells at Wal-Mart for 1.89<br /><br />By shopping at Wal-Mart, my average grocery bill has dropped from $140 a week to $90. (My Wal-Mart store is only a few months old) That's $200 a month I save just by driving 6-miles down the road.<br /><br />Sure, Mom&Pop stores and little trinket shops are a nice concept, but I'm not willing to pay $200 a month to support them.
 
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