Mercruiser what to try next

wnaplay

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Boat is a 89 maxum with the 5.0lx mercruiser, thunderbolt ignition, 305.

2 weeks ago I went throught the boat after it wouldnt start. Check everything I could think of. I even took out the ignition sensor and cleaned it. Put it all back together and nothing. I go out awhile later and it starts right up. I start it everyday for the next few days, no problems. So I take it out and put it in the water. In neutral it revs great, put it in gear and its flat on its face. Again to netral and its fine but once in gear it just chugs slowly. I decide to swim for a minute and then attempt to fire it up and like the first time nothing. It cranks strong and makes every effort to start. I mean it is so close its almost like it starts for about .0002 of a second and dies. The boat has not had a tune up in years only because I havent used it but twice in the few years I have had it.

So being handicapped and not working for years, I need some advice before I drop money into it I dont have. Would you attempt a full tune-up on it first, maybe new fuel filter/water seperator(maybe water in fuel or clogged, dont know how though its sealed), new plugs? I am getting spark based on directions I got online, and I swapped coils to see but that did nothing. I have tested for 12v at the coil and going into the amplifier. Could I be losing power as I crank (does that even sound like the issue I am having)? I though perhaps its not getting the fuel to start, but it wont start on ether and it smells like theres plenty of gas present. I have checked all fuses. I just dont know were to go next. Cap doesnt appear to have any moisture, it was blown out, wd40'ed, the rotor looks good.
 

Bifflefan

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Re: Mercruiser what to try next

First, reving in neutral really doesnt mean anything other than it is running.

I would start with points, (i dont remeber what year it was) plugs and the like. It probably needs a carb over haul also.
Sitting for a couple years is way worse on an engine than running to the same time. Wires go bad and the carb will get gummed up. Do a complete tune up (so to speak) and you should be boatin in high style again.

Just FYI, WD-40 can leave a residue in the cap that will not let enough spark pass to the plugs also.
 

wnaplay

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Re: Mercruiser what to try next

Boat doesnt have points. Its the cap and rotor style. Heres my issue why I havent done a full tune up on it 1. I dont want to spend needless money 2. everything should work other than sensors and stuff which is not so easily tested 3. if it were a carb issue, wouldnt it start on ether? If it were running, I would have no issue doing a full tune up however something tells me that after $$$$ in tune-up parts, its still not going to start and then I am stuck with new parts on a boat that I will again be forced to let sit and go bad.

Anyone have diagnostic methods for figuring out what the problem is? I just cant drop money on parts in an attemp to fix it. If I wanted to do that, i would let the marine mechanic do it for me.
 

PitchFork

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Re: Mercruiser what to try next

Not sure why or reason to WD40 the rotor I have never done that. You need to find out when it does not start is it fuel or spark related. As for not running well if that fuel is 2+ years old then it is bad fuel. Either empty it 1st choice or if pretty empty fill it with 93 octane and a can of SeaFoam and run it. If sitting 2+ years the carb could be gummed up. Spend a few hours and go through the engine, sparks, wires, etc. Revingin neutral will not tell you a thing it needs to be underload.
 
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Re: Mercruiser what to try next

Just a couple of points I'd like to make:

Points ignition also has cap and rotor.

Spark plugs left in the head for years can guarantee snapping one off in there when you do finally try to change them. (Would do them yearly just for that reason alone)

Having new tune up parts installed are not considered "stuck with" if it hasn't been done in years. You want to go out and have a good time on the water, and get stuck it will cost you much more than a tune up if you have to call sea tow for a ride.

The fuel separator should be replaced at least yearly, I would check the fuel quality, as well as clean/replace all filters on the system. The ethanol in gas today causes problems if it sits for long periods, and all filters on the system would be replaced.

my .02
 

JustJason

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Re: Mercruiser what to try next

2 things.

1. check the drives oil. If it's empty or full of water then you need a drive work, and it can get pricey, and that may influence your overall decision. If you find the drive full of water, and you choose to just drain it and fill it with oil, don't be surprised if it blows up on you in short order.

2. Do a compression test on the engine first. If you end up having just 1 bad cylinder it will never run right.

Troubleshoot in this order, and don't skip around, or else you be throwing money at parts you don't need.

1. Mechanicals - Compression
2. Ignition systems
3. Fuel systems.
 

jtmarten

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Re: Mercruiser what to try next

Plenty of gas - check the plugs to see if they're wet/flooded. Really sounds like an ignition/timing issue. Toss the cap/rotor that were wd40'd. Replace the plugs.

I wouldn't bother with a compression test until you sort out the fuel/spark issue. If fuel/spark are in spec, then begin more labor/tool intensive diagnosis.
 

Don S

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Re: Mercruiser what to try next

Not much sense in fixing weak spark, or screwed up carb if there isn't any compresion in a cylinder or two.
 
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