Mercruiser 5.7LX Potential Blown Head Gasket

farmboy76

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About a month ago I bought my first boat. Its a 1997 Larson 206 Sei Bowrider with a Merc 5.7LX and Alpha 1 outdrive. The hour meter had 488 hours on it. I bought the boat directly from the original owner. It looks like it has been well cared for (most of my neighbors thought it was only a couple of years old). All of the fluids looked good and at the proper levels. The day I looked at the boat it was raining, so rather than putting it in the lake he ran it in the driveway with muffs on. It sounded great and ran smooth at all RPMs, I haven't heard too many 18 year old motors sound that smooth.

I brought it home and put it in storage. Over the Memorial Day Weekend we took it for its maiden voyage. We hit two lakes in two days and had a lot of fun. The first day everything ran great. The second day it also ran well most of the day. Towards the end of the day it would act and smell like it was flooded after we stopped and shut the motor off to change tube riders etc. It also seemed a little sluggish when starting off pulling the tube with two kids on it. Everyone was getting tired so we loaded it up and came home. The next day at home I put the muffs on and it started right up and ran fine.

Yesterday we packed everyone up and headed back to the lake. When I tried to start the motor to launch off the trailer the engine would not start and had that flooded sound/smell. I put the throttle in the wide open position just like the manual recommends and it started after a few tries. We idled out of the launch area and onto the lake. When I opened it up to cruise across the lake it backfired real bad a couple times and started a pretty bad tick/knock. I took it back to idle and the knock stopped. We started off again and once I got above 2000-2500 RPM the knock came back, so I idled back to the dock, loaded it up and came back home. In the driveway with the muffs on it wasn't consistent, but I could replicate the problem.

Here are the details:

MCM 5.7 Litre LX
Engine S/N - 0K276257
Transom S/N - 0K272749
Drive S/N - 0K242471
Engine Hours: 494.1

Today the oil looks good with no signs of water. The oil fill caps and inside the valve covers also show no signs of water. There does appear to be some blow by oil at the breather tubes both at the valve cover and above the spark arrestor, but nothing excessive. This morning I pulled the plugs. 1, 3, 5, 7 (port) were dry but black with carbon. 2, 4, 6, 8 (starboard) were all varying levels of moist (smelled like oil/gas) and also black with carbon. I performed a compression test: 1 - 170 psi, 2 - 150 psi, 3 - 175 psi, 4 - 10 psi, 5 - 165 psi, 6 - 30 psi, 7 - 170 psi, 8 - 140 psi. I took the starboard valve cover off and inspected the lifters, springs and lifting rods and can see no obvious damage.

It seems pretty obvious that I at least have a blown head gasket, and at worst...well worse. Based on everyone's experience and the book I have written here is it reasonable to think it is just the gasket? If it is, can it be done "in frame" or does the motor have to come out? Ball park, how much time should it take, and what do you think it will cost?

On the way home I contacted a couple of repair shops anticipating I would need one. No one can look at it for a couple of weeks. We have a vacation planned and paid for over the Independence Day weekend, so I'd like to get it up and running before then. I am pretty mechanically inclined (grew up on a farm, owned/operated trucks and heavy equipment, etc.), so I have the ability and most of the tools to do the work. Time and a good service manual are the only things I'm lacking as long as the motor doesn't have to come out.

Any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 

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:wlcome: to iboats farmboy

Sorry to hear about your issues, but I would pull the intake and head to have a look. Yes it was a long read but also was clear in what happened. It could be you could get away with replacing just the gaskets, but you need to get the heads off to find out. If your doing one head and it is repairable without pulling the engine, then I would recommend replacing the other head gasket as well
 

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Thank you for the information. I'll dig in and let you know what I find. I'm with you; if I have it apart I'll do all the gaskets while I'm there.
 

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Normal process is to inspect everything as you remove it too. Maybe you can find the cause. Since #4 & #6 are next to each other on the same side perhaps the exhaust got water into the combustion chambers. That's a common boat problem when this sort of thing happens.
Check for water in the bottom of the exhaust manifold. Check the gasket between the riser and the manifold. Check the manifolds and the risers for leaks from the water jacket into the exhaust passages.
You might just be smart to change those parts with the repair, they are a common need. If they look new, don't change them. But take some pics, we can help you decide.
When you remove the head you'll know more. I'd try to get you to do both. Get them checked out at a machine shop. They can flatten (mill) them if needed and check that they are OK.
You sound as if you'd know this but keep the removed parts in order. Pushrods and rockers, and whatever else you remove.
Keep us posted, good luck. I hope it's only the gasket!
Oh and welcome to the forum. Lousy way to join, eh?
 

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Is the sound a knock for sure? Could it be a backfire/popping sound in the intake? If you have not removed the head yet, put some motor oil down the number 4 and 6 cylinders thru the spark plug holes, and do the compression check over. If the compression comes up, there is a problem in the bottom end. If it doesn't change, then you have something in the top end(gasket, burnt valves) .That is no. 1 priority to fix. I have the exact same boat/engine combo, even the same year, and had some similar issues when I bought mine. Sounded fine with no load on muffs, under load I had all sorts of issues. Had 3 burnt vales. It would backfire through the intake badly. Had the heads rebuilt, and did a full tune up. After the engine got warm, I still had the ignition system breaking up at higher rpm. Ended up the ignition coil on mine was bad, and when it got hot, would cause the ignition to break up. I did the work myself, and spent about $500 on headwork and gaskets, and tune up parts. I did the work on mine in the boat. If you have the rear bench seat, sundeck combo, I removed all of that to do the work. Removing the seat and base combo is a PITA. I will see if I can find a link to the manuals again. Good luck. I have been there before, and once it's fixed, it will be totally worthwhile, and fun.
 
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farmboy76

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Thanks for all the tips and advice. I found a shop this morning that can take a look at it late this week or early next week. Like I said, time is one thing I don't have a lot of right now. Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. I'll post what they determine the problem is.
 

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Ok, glad you found a place to look at it. Would love to see a few pics of the boat when you have some time. Wondering about color combo/ seating setup.
 

farmboy76

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I called and got an update this morning, and hopefully they will be done with the boat this afternoon (almost a week early). Luckily it was only the head gasket. Everything else looked good, pistons and cylinders all looked normal, the head and valve train all checked out. I had them do the other side as well which was a great choice as the there was a problem with one of the exhaust seats. They also found that the water pump had a leak. I can't wait to get it back and get it out on the water for a test drive. When I get it back I'll take some pictures and post them.
 
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