Mercruiser 5.7L MCM TKS Carb mechanical sound

mnjjansen

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Hi all,

The TKS carb is giving a mechanical clatter sound, not meant here is the normal suction sound from the TKS enrichment module at cold start proving extra fuel. The TKS module has been tested by me to be sure and is ok. During the last outage the engine was hot and stalled at low rpms, oil pressure dropped from 60 to 20 psi, for the first time. Pulled a plug, looks like the engine is running too rich. Next start days later I listened to the engine and heard the sound I am talking about for the first time. The sound is there when cold and hot and has a steady pattern and not changing, as far I can hear, when changing my rpms. The engine starts easily and quits immediately when shut down. Engine model 4312025US, S/N 1A085141, 350CID 260HP, year 2007.

My mechanic however does not think there is a mechanical engine issue, though my initial thoughts were a recently broken piston ring or worn piston rod bearing on the crankshaft. But, listening close by (engine surroundings) there is no local spot with knocking or clatter from rotating/linear moving parts, it only comes out of the carb like it is a speaker. That is why my mechanic is focused on the carb but I think it is really strange. We however pulled 2 very minor plastic pieces (1/10 fingernail) from one of the throttle plates during close inspection but that didn't change anything. Most likely the pieces are from the flame arrestor, though it doesn't show pieces have been broken off.

I added a movie clip. The sharp clatter sound here seems much stronger than in reality.
Again, note that the sound is coming directly out of the carb only like you listen to the belly of the beast, which perhaps, is not even far-fetched. Sound remains from cold to hot (175) at idle rpm and pressure steady at 60psi. Not tested in gear (to avoid the risk of further harm).

View attachment vlc-record-2023-08-12-22h46m17s-merc5_7_soundoutcarb.mp4-.mp4

Perhaps someone recognizes this and/or can direct me to the potential issue. Thanks for reading my long story and hope for your help.

Many thanks,
Martijn
 
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alldodge

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It doesn't change with rpms so its not in the motor or drive. If it did then it could be

It over heated so might be the exhaust shutters in the exhaust but it's kind a loud for something like that
 

mnjjansen

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It was the TKS carb, after cutting of the air flow on the carb I immediately noticed the mechanical clatter noise was impacted by that. I cleaned the carb air/fuel passage and the solenoid closed, hence stopped enrichment. Case solved, no. The 20A fuse was blown, meaning the temp switch didn't particate in the alarm / TKS circuit. Because of the diode between the temp and oil switch circuit the solenoid did work but not as supposed. I think there is still a harness issue somewhere. With TKS the test procedure is simple. Cold start, temp solenoid itself should rise immediately (oil preasure switch driven). When engine hot above 130F, TSK module must keep valve shut (no enrichment), if not faulty temp switch / wiring.
But anyhow, a TKS carb makes a lot of disturbing noise when you are used to a normal carb. Some said my engine sounded like a dead anchor in the water, just because of that terrible swirling / metallic clatter sound.
 
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