Mercruiser 470 w/Alpha One not taking in fresh water and wont shift into gear

devils518

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Hi all! First post here. I am fairly mechanically inclined but know next to nothing about boats. I have a mercruiser 470 with an Alpha One drive. Everything was redone in 08' by the previous owner(entire motor and drive rebuilt). I have had the boat for 4 years now but have had to do very little to keep it in working order aside from regular maintenance . Despite the negative things I have heard about this motor I have really enjoyed owning this boat once I got used to it's quirks. No major issues until now except a bad throttle controller.

The last time I had her on the water (last fall) we were having a good day. No issues what so ever with the boat all day. I start her up for the last time to head home everything starts up good. No noises or anything. We exit the no wake zone and I start to give her some gas. Just as were getting up on plane we smell a slight burning smell. As though someone is burning plastic or rubber. Because of our surroundings and how quickly the smell went away I assumed it was something coming from shore. About 30 seconds later we start rapidly slowing down. The motor never shuts off or makes any kind of noises and I didn't detect any further smells but it will not shift at all. Forward or reverse. I can give it throttle just fine but the drive will not engage. We had to find a tow off the lake (not an easy task that time of year, that late in the evening where we are) This was very late last fall and I did not attempt to diagnose the issue further or run it on the muffs. Just put her away for the winter. The only thing I can think that I've done that may have had any kind of effect on this is I replaced the throttle controller last spring. This was not the first time on the water with the new controller though.

Now we get to this spring. I pulled the boat out of storage last week to start diagnosing the issue and get ready for the coming summer. The first thing I did was get set up with the muffs to see if she still runs fine(I know this was probably not what my first step should have been). Started right up as though we were already on the lake no problem. I pop my head over back to make sure the muffs are still on properly and I notice there is no water coming out of the exhaust. I immediately check the temp gage, still not hot enough to register but I shut it down anyway. At this point I do some(very) quick research on my phone and don't come up with much. What I did next I, again, am fully aware was probably not the right choice. I decided to start the boat up again and just keep a close eye on everything to see if the water will start circulating on its own. The temp gage never moved (maybe slightly) but after about a minute of running at about 1/4 throttle I here cracking or crackling from the engine bay. I immediately turn the motor off. The "cracking" sound continued for about a minute and there was a burning smell and a decent amount of smoke or steam(not sure which). The sound and the smoke or steam was(and I believe the smell) coming mostly from somewhere between the transom and the back of the motor(on the heat exchanger side). There was also some smoke/steam coming out of the front of the heat exchanger between the cap and the exchanger itself. I am not certain (don't entirely recall what it looked like before the incident) but I believe the cap on the front of the heat exchanger is slightly bent out all the way around the outside edge as though there was an excessive amount of pressure inside the heat exchanger. I will post a pic of this later today or tomorrow.

I am wondering if these two issues could be related?

Sorry for the long winded post. If anyone has some insight about where I should start here I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
 

nola mike

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Well, you have one issue that likely is now many. Your first problem sounds like a blown engine coupler. That leads to an overheat. At that point you've damaged your out drive. If lucky you've only melted your impeller and housing, but the drive will need to come off and inspected. you got it hot enough to melt your rubber parts.exhaust bellows (off the exhaust manifold,can't think of the proper name) and shutters at least. Can't think of how your heat exchanger would be damaged, but maybe someone else can. Lastly, the overheat of the engine itself. Wouldn't be unlikely that you blew your head gasket on the 470. Hopefully that's the extent of the damage. Sorry, sounds like you've got a lot of work ahead.
 

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Unless the coolant in the exchanger was hot enough to boil and escape. Yikes, not a minor overheat if so.
 

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Your symptoms sound very much like the coupler has failed - Burnt rubber smell, no F/R drive and overheating. The water pump is driven by the spinning driveshaft and your's isn't turning.

Do not run the motor before fixing the coupler or your will be fixing far more because 470's can blow head gaskets and other stuff caused by overheating. Hopefully no overheat damage occurred if you caught it quick enough.
 

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Start by pulling the out drive and looking through the transom at the coupler. When this goes your out drive isn't turning, which means the out drive impeller isn't turning, which leads to the overheat. Your symptoms plus the initial burning smell strongly suggest that as the culprit...
 

devils518

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Thanks for the input guys. I had strong suspicion that it might be something like what you guys describe with the coupler. Again, not a mechanic but I really don't think(maybe thus is wishful thinking) it ran hot enough or long enough to cause any overheat problems with the motor itself. It was only about a minute. The temp gage rose barely if at all.

Do either of you know what the temp gage is reading? Is it the stat itself or is there a sensor somewhere? Is it reading the raw water temp or the temp of the coolant?

If it were the coupler and/or parts related to it do you think I would be looking at replacing parts or is this a total rebuild/replace of the drive?
 

devils518

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Unless the coolant in the exchanger was hot enough to boil and escape. Yikes, not a minor overheat if so.

I did not see any signs of boiling/leaking coolant. The pressure in the exchanger does appear to have been very hi though. As described before it pay have "bent" the end caps and there was steam/smoke coming from thus area.
 

devils518

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Also just though of this. For whatever it may be worth. My father happened to come by just after I had shut the motor off. He said the smell was like that of an electrical component. Like over heating windings on a motor or something of that nature. I know this might be hard to answer without being there but does anyone have a thought to any components of that nature that could be affected by this issue?
 

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Do either of you know what the temp gage is reading?

Ayuh,...... Welcome Aboard,..... The temp sender is in the t-stat housin', 'n shows the coolant temp, if there's coolant there,....
It won't show the proper temp, if there's air, insteada coolant in the t-stat housin',.....

If it was cracklin' after ya shut it down, it's My guess is it was way hotter than you think it was,.....

The coupler is bolted to the aft end of the crankshaft, 'n costs a few hundred bucks,....

To change it, ya pull the drive, then the motor to get to the coupler,....
 

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If the end cap of the heat exchanger was slightly "bent" it is because you never winterized the system. There is no AF in that area of the cooler only raw water .The only pressure or stress the end cap see`s is from ice forming in the heat exchanger
 

Bt Doctur

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actual running temp is around 170-175 degrees if everything is working properly
 

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you lost your coupler last year

hope you drained it prior to layup, or you may be searching for a heat exchanger (they dont like to survive being frozen)

hope the coolant never raised more than 10 degrees. if so, you most likely took out the head gasket

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The coupler is rubber with a splined piece of metal in the middle. When the rubber goes it gets hot and smells. Combine that with the hot exhaust going through the rubber parts and you get the smell your dad described.

You will probably need new shutters and may find the flaps of the old ones in the exhaust or drive. Inspect all the rubber parts of the exhaust.
 
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