hi there, thanks for all the help and info that you guys put on this forum here is my history I have a 1980 mercruiser with a 228 o 305 motor I have a new water pump installed on my outdrive, new thermostat housing, new risers and manifolds, new circulating pump for the motor, I have a digital temp gun just in case my gauge wasn't working, and the engine when is running on muffs on idle the tem is 160 I put the boat in the water and going slow about 8 miles almost idle the temp is 175 if I go hald way throttle the temp go up to 200 if I put the boat back on idle the temp go down to 165, here is more info I use a 160 degree thermostat and I took the thermostat out and didnt make no diference same temp any ideas thanks.