marine quick lube

catchall

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i currently work at a quick lube in Stuart Florida. The owner and I are thinking of expanding and offering our services to the local marine industry. I was hoping to get some feedback to see if there would be a good market for this service. We want to offer fast oil changes and other preventive maintenance items at a low price compared to a marina. What do you think?
 

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Re: marine quick lube

If there's someone there who has the right skills, it might be a good business idea. If you add stuff like winterizing and un-winterizing, you might get even more business, if you're in an area that requires it.

Edit: Ah...Florida...never mind.
 

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IO oil changes may be doable, providing the oil filters are accessible. Out drive lube changes and complete greasing may be another issue due to accessibility and time constraints. As for fuel filter/water separators the risk of spilled fuel and subsequent explosion would need to be looked at also.
 

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Re: marine quick lube

I appreciate the tips. yea deffinitlly no winterizing. LOL. Jest the winter sailfish season when all the charter boats come and go back to and from Mexico. From the work i have done on IOs and inboards the oil and fuel systems are not that hard to get to. That is what we would mostly do fuel, oil and belts, the easy things.
 

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Only way to really know is to take a chance ... nothing ventured, nothing gained. Good luck!
 

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Let me count the ways this could go wrong.
Cars come in while running, and are warmed up and ready to drain the oil. Put them up on a hoist, pull the drain plug, remove the filter, put in new filter and new oil, game over.
Not going to happen with a boat.
First of all, they are cold, and may not have been run for a year or more, batteries are probably dead, boat is full of toys (fishing, tubing, vacationing stuff), may be covered with canvas with a million snaps. OK, you got the batteries turned on, and the drive down.
Now, you have to hook up water to the outdrive to run it, unless it has a through hull pickup, then it's different, but it could be both. Don't make a mistake, or you will be replacing some expensive pumps and impellers.
Assuming you have the muffs on properly, you turn the water on and run it for 10 to 15 minutes to warm the oil. Shut it off and now pull the oil out of the motor.
HOW???? Well, it may be easy, maybe not so easy, depending on how old or new. Can take from 1 to 20 minutes to get the oil out of a warm engine.
OH YES, the oil filter. Some unwritten law is that the filter is put in a place that can only be touched by 1 finger of one hand and unseen. Good luck, and don't drop it, or you have a bilge full of black oil. What do you mean the drain plug is out and you have oil running down the driveway in all the water you had to use to warm the engine. Bummer, that'll cost you big if it hits a sewer somewhere along the line.
Ok, that may go ok this time, but it WILL get you eventually.

Remember earlier I said it might not have been run for a year? well what happens if you start it and water gets in the oil because it wasn't winterized properly, or the plugs were left out of the block and the bilge filled with water and you can't find the plugs.
Then there is the ever popular dead battery, locked up engine, won't start, etc. etc. etc.
Even if all went well up to this point, you still have to run the engine the second time to make sure the oil level is correct and the filter doesn't leak. Then you have to pick up all your drop cloths to keep the carpet clean and clean up all the oily finger prints, get all your pumps, old filters, dirty rags and oil absorbers out of the bilge.
This all takes TIME, people never think about. and TIME is MONEY.
 

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Re: marine quick lube

Don could not have said it any better!!
No such thing as a quick oil change on a boat.
Gotta love those filters that are rusted and have not been changed in years!
They crumble when you put the filter wrench on...:eek:
 

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Re: marine quick lube

thank you for the feed back. I have done a little research. I only plan on doing large diesel engines and IOs. most have evacuation pumps for the oil and since i live in Florida i do no need to worry about winter. I have done oil changes on boats a few times and can do the oil changes in about a half hour depending on the engine. Dead batteries wont be a problem because i will have a jumper as part of my kit. I wont be doing the work at the shop but at the marina, so the boats will be in the water, no muffs. I think it will work. But if there is any other snags you can think of please let me know.
 

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INsurance. Environmental insurance.
Access to marina/boat, waiting for the owner to show up to unlock or provide the correct keys.


Many marinas won't allow the work.

Many marinas won't allow YOU to do the work without some sort of a cut.
 

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I would sincerely read Don's answer. I think he has done a few oil changes however he has also performed the challenging ones...... oh yeah Don does it for a living ;)

Oil changes are only a very minor portion of the maintenance. It should be clear to the customers that a simple oil change is only part of the maintenence required to keep thinks going.

If the impellar has been changed? If the closed system is working properly.... honestly speaking..... if you make an error with fluid type or something simple I imagine you will be liable.

I am old school myself. My I/O knowledge is "okay" and with the exact manual I can do the work but the professional tech is my lifeline. If you want to try to enhance your oil change business I would hire a specific trained marine tech.

What fluid should I use in my 1972 65 hp johnson? Trust me there are many snags. Stick with what you know and do that best.
 

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Want to offer a good service? Offer a wheel bearing/brake service for the trailers. That is simple and normally boat owners leave that until last to do.
 

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Re: marine quick lube

This is sounding more and more like a bad idea. I did not think the marina would not allow the work or want a cut them selfs. That eleminates the idea of low prices. Thanks to all the replies.
 

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I only plan on doing large diesel engines and IOs. most have evacuation pumps for the oil

1, large diesel engines, do not have IO's
2. the bigger they are the MORE expensive the process.
3. Ever carry 10 gallons of used black diesel oil and old filters and buckets of rags over white carpet thru the galley and main salon of a 65' boat? If you have you know you carry a gun. That way if you mess up and spill the oil on that white carpet, you have a quick way to dispatch yourself.
4. People with BIG boats want the job done right, not cheaply. They don't use Jiffy Lube for their cars either.
5. Even with the evacuation pumps, the tanks have to be emptied if full, and they only hold so much.
6. You really didn't do much research now, did you?
 
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