Marine Corps. Museum

jinx

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I was driving up I-95 from Fredericksburg, VA today heading North. There is a long straight stretch where you can get a nice look at the new museum going up.<br /><br />It is shaped like the Iwo Jima Memorial and is a rather imposing sight, surrounded by cranes as it was.<br /><br />As I passed the site and went over the next rise the sign for the next exit read: Quantico National Cemetery.<br /><br />It kind of put it in all in a different perspective.<br /><br />Jinx
 

Winger Ed.

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Its good to see them getting a new building. <br /><br />I trust it, and the new cemetary didn't cover up, or destroy the Civil War troop camps, gun battery sites that were used to blockcade the Potomac, or the area where all the trenches are that WW I Marines trained in.<br /><br />.......<br /><br />When I was up there at HMX-1, as part of the Marine One crew in the late 70's, I'd go help them put exibits together during a extended Lunch hour, or on my time off. The last one I helped on was Pres. Eisenhower's (V)H-34.... The first Presidential helicoter. <br /><br />Back then, the Museum folks had part of the old 'Larson's Gym'-- which was a pre WW I Seaplane hanger. It also had some secret underground stuff where they tested and researched Jet Engines in the early-1940's. (I've put my hands on jet turbine engines the Marine Corps bought in 1942).<br /><br />The exibit halls they had back then were the old Hangers used prior to WW I, and in even as late as WW II. <br /><br />They became warehouses for awhile when the Officer's Candidate School moved from Parris Island, and took over the rest of their buildings & the old airstrip (where the first planes in Marine Avaition were tested & evaluated). <br /><br />When the new Air Station was built--that sitll does all the helicopter research & testing for the Marine Corps as well as other things---, <br /><br />The old grass runways were made into the Parade Ground for OCS; and near the end of the runway, they stuck the Quantico Brig---- the place where they kept that nutcase Hinkley for a few years after he shot Pres. Reagan. <br /><br />.......<br /><br />Cool place. <br /><br />And there is more of the most interesting historical, and experimental stuff that wasn't bought, but tested or developed from the early 19o0's to the present than ya can imagine in that area, as well as the exibits shown to the public:<br /><br />,,,,Like a 18 cylinder, "T" block aircraft engine. It was designed to 'up' the Supercharged Rolls Royce Merlin (3,754 shaft horsepower) from a V-12, to a 5,000 hp, 18 cylinder piston prop fighter engine. Neat idea,,,,, but jet engines made it obsolete when it was in the proto-type stage.<br /><br />,,,,They have a 'dud' V-1 rocket recovered from London..... intact except for a big dent on the nose.<br /><br />,,,,I've gazed upon a dissasembled, all black, and mostly wooden German 'flying wing' bomber, that had it's exhaust on top of the wing. .... It was the first generation of stealth technology. Many features on it can be seen on the B-1, as well as the Northrup 'Flying Wing' from the the late 40's.<br /><br />,,,, A old C-47 (DC-3) that participated in the Berlin Airlift is on display.<br /><br />,,,,They have a (un-issued), WW II Japanese 'BAKA' bomb. It is a large arial (glider) bomb, made to be dropped from a bomber---- but it also has a pilot. To stand and look at it makes your blood run cold. <br /><br />,,,,They have the only Japanese 'Zero', (of about 4)to survive the war, and it took part in the attack on Pearl Harbor.<br /><br />,,,,They have a (Pappy Boyington) F-4 Corsair with 'O' flight hours on it. We'd crank it up once in awhile,,,,, and the ground would shake for 500 yards away from it. It is left to the imagination what it would be like when the sky was full of them.<br /><br />..........<br /><br />All those things and much, much more are all restored to perfection, and on display....<br /><br />Gosh that was a neat place to hang out in for a couple of years. I still ocassionally look at the inch or so thick stack of pictures I took in there while un-escorted, or before it opened. <br /><br /><br />I could talk for hours about the stuff at the Quantico museum, and Quantico in general. It has been the 'Showplace' of the Marine Corps since about 1900. <br /><br />I remember the cemetary when it was going in there by the Main Gate, and they were bulldozing out acres and acres of old growth forest. Originally, it was slated for the 'overflow' from the Arlington National Cemetary about 35 miles up the road. <br /><br />Of those intered there, that span the generations of US servicemen & women, and are there due to different circumstances:<br /><br />"All gave some, and some gave all", to earn those plots. <br /><br />May they live forever, even if it is only in our hearts. <br /><br /><br />Semper Fi,<br />Ed.
 

62_Kiwi

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<br />,,,,They have the only Japanese 'Zero', (of about 4)to survive the war, and it took part in the attack on Pearl Harbor.<br />
Wow I didn't realise they were that rare! - we have a "Zero" on display at the Auckland War Memorial Museum. It must be another one of the four.<br /><br />A very interesting post Winger Ed, thanks.
 

Winger Ed.

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Originally posted by 62_Kiwi:<br />[QB]
Wow I didn't realise they were that rare! - [/quote]<br /><br /><br />Oh yeah...<br />They were all shot down, or destroyed on the ground. At the end of the war, the Japanese were down to trainers, and a few cargo planes to launch against the Allied forces. <br /><br />When Japan fell, they had very little 'war machines' left at all be it ships, planes, armor, whatever. And most of them were scraped.<br />That part of the world has to import most of their metals---- so after the war, they pretty well picked up all the military equip. and melted it down to rebuild the country with.<br /><br /><br />The Zero we have at Quantico was sitting damaged on one of the Pacific islands when it was captured. The recovered maintenance records showed it had survived Pearl Harbor-- with battle damage, and was repaired.<br /><br />It was shot up again, but returned to its carrier. It was then off loaded onto a island base to be repaired again. When the island was captured a year or two later, it wasn't flyable, but survived the battle on the ground--- more or less intact. <br /><br />When its history was learned, it was crated up, shipped back to the US, it was re-discovered in the military's giant aircraft 'boneyard' out in the Western desert, and finally got restored sometime in the 70's. <br /><br />//////<br /><br />The one you guys have probably has a very interesting history too. Back in the 70's the folks at the Air Museum knew of 4 that were left at the time. They didn't comment on if all 4 had been restored and were on display or not. <br /><br />There are some replicas of Zeros flying around. Most are Hollywood left overs. They made several back when the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora" was being filmed. They took old T-26s and changed the silouet of them to look like a Zero, and put a period paint job on them. Being all metal skined, they are easy to spot if you get up close to one.
 

62_Kiwi

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Ed, you might be interested in the following website which details the history of NZ's Zero and Zeros in general. It also mentions your Zero.<br /><br /> http://mitsubishi_zero.tripod.com/ <br /><br />
<br />This Zero was discovered on the South Pacific island of Bougainville by the Allied military forces. Recovered by members of the Royal New Zealand Air Force, it was bought back to New Zealand in 1945. <br /><br />After some years of storage and neglect, it now resides on display at the Auckland Museum.<br />
<br />A6M2-21 c/n 5450 code EII-140 NAS Pensacola, FL, USA (is this the Zero ex-Malmaluau, Rabaul ex Carrier 'Zuikakul; Ballale Island,. that was at USMO Museum, Quantico, VA ?)<br />
 

Winger Ed.

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Originally posted by 62_Kiwi:<br /> website which details the history of NZ's Zero and Zeros in general. It also mentions your Zero.
Thanks, that's a great site. I had no idea that many more have been found, raised from the sea, or otherwise been restored. <br /><br />I can't say if one is question was moved from Quantico to Florida or not. Its hard to imagine the Air museum letting go of it.<br /><br />On display around it in a giant glass case is all the Flight gear from a surviving Japanese Ace and 'Pappy' Boyington. They both met at Quantico in the mid 70's and both donated all their flight gear of the period to be put on display.
 
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