Low RPM with 86 Merc 150

Blueeyes

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Hello again. I have a recently aquired 1984 Eastern 22' lobster style boat with a 1986 Merc 150 BlackMax OB. The hull design is a V, which is relatively flat in the stern. The hull is not stepped.<br /><br />I've been working bugs out of this engine; first the oil pump alarm (which was partially solved by replacing the pump shaft sensor, but it still alarms at low rpm), then overheating, which was solved by doing the bi-annual water pump/thermostat/diaphram maintenance that was obviously ignored by the previous owner.<br /><br />So, the last big problem is that I can only get 3700 rpm under ideal tilt conditions. The spec for the engine is 5000 to 5600 rpm. The current prop is a cupped Michigan 14.5" diameter, 17" pitch. I am able to get at least 6000 RPM in neutral, although the engine doesn't sound perfectly smooth at that rpm.<br /><br />I have checked the calibration of the boat tach by simultaneously taching the power head with a calibrated contact tach, and it is dead nuts. The boat hull weighs 2200 lb, max fuel is 70 gallons for 560 lb, engine is 350 lb, optional equipment is estimated at 500 lb, 2 people/gear is 400 lb, for a total estimate of around 4000. I have tested with four people and various amounts of fuel, and with 2 people and almost no fuel, and the max rpm is always 3700, so I don't seem to be on the edge of any weight/performance ratio.<br /><br />I have adjusted the position of the carb linkage, and the butterflys are wide open. I have rebuilt the carbuerators and the fuel pump, replaced the fuel filter and burned through all old gas. I am running 87 octane.<br /><br />I'm not really concerned about top speed or hole shot. This is just a lobster/fishing boat used in the atlantic ocean. But I am concerned about over straining the engine and getting stranded in the big blue sea!<br /><br />The 14.25/17 prop I have seems like it should be about right, but based on the prop rules of thumb, it seems like I would need to reduce diameter and/or pitch to unrealistic (and unavailable) values to gain 1300+ rpm. I can get a 14.25D/15P prop in stainless, but I just want aluminum (cost) and the 300-400 rpm that will give is just not enough.<br /><br />So, I'm leaning more towards having a power head problem that is causing a loss of HP. I have not checked engine timing yet, and plan to do that tomorrow. Could timing cause a large decrease in max RPM? I do not own a compression tester, but I finally need one in by backyard mechanic career, so that is coming.<br /><br />Any other suggestions are much appreciated.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Greg Calder
 

wilde1j

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Re: Low RPM with 86 Merc 150

Greg, over 3k RPM w/o a load isn't a good idea.<br /><br />Your motor may be marginal power for the boat. I have a Johnson 140 on a 19' w/ a 14.4x20" prop and it turns 5700 WOT. My boat is a lot lighter than yours and way less wetted surface. I mention this just as a point of reference.<br /><br />I suspect once your sure the engine is developing its rated HP, your only reasonable choice will be a much lower prop pitch.
 

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Re: Low RPM with 86 Merc 150

Wildeone,<br />It may not be, but I needed to know if it would get up there. I didn't hold it there, it was a fairly short test.<br /><br />I don't want to change the topic, but I'm curious why unloaded high rpm on a boat motor is a risk. I've never perceived it to be a great risk on any other type of engine.<br /><br />Back to the topic; I forgot to mention that I have tried two new sets of plugs. The correct plugs are NGK BU8H. BU8H plugs were installed when I received the boat, but one plug was found to intermittently not fire. A replacement set that came with the boat was NGK BUHW. The BUHW set ran very well, max rpm not-withstanding. I figured I should put the correct plugs in, so I bought a set of BU8H and installed them, and found that the engine is pretty hard to start cold. This has been true every day except today. For some reason, while doing my tachometer test, it fired right up just like it usually does out on the water, after the initial hard start. I think maybe the fuel is leaking out of the top bowl. I did find a problem with the replacement hose that went from the top bowl to the enrichener solenoid. I thought I fixed that, but still smell gas, expecially when the engine is tilted up, and haven't figured out where it's coming from yet. That hose could still be leaking at the fitting.<br /><br />It may be underpowered as you suggest, although according to Eastern, the original engine was either a 115, or a 135--I have forgotten what they said.<br /><br />I guess another good piece of info is, at 3700 rpm, my speedometer says I'm going 25 mph. I'm not sure what speed is required to reach plane, but I think it's close to 20. My loran is reading speed in knots, but I haven't paid much attention to it. I'll be out again tomorrow evening, so I'll pay close attention to this info and post what I find.<br /><br />Thanks!<br />Greg
 

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Re: Low RPM with 86 Merc 150

The local prop shop, New England Propeller has recommended a 16" D x 13" P propeller. I have bought it and test fitted. I'm concerned about the clearance of the prop to the anti-cavitation plate of the outboard. The blade tip comes within 3/16" of the base of the plate. Is this a problem? I have read that the gap should be about 10% of the blade diameter, but I think this application was describing a fixed screw, where the gap was relative to the hull, not an outboard cavitation plate.<br /><br />This prop will only gain me a theoretical 500 rpm. A 16D x 11P will gain a theoretical 900 rpm and that is really what I think I should try, if the clearance with the engine is not an issue. It ought to pull a real hole shot with that prop, but potential top speed will really suffer. I don't really care about top speed, just about relieving the strain from the engine. Any input?
 
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