Loose lug screw

Greg2170

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Does anyone have any suggestions on getting the lug nut off of a loose lug screw? Maybe a way to reset the screw so I can loosen the nut? Any help will be appreciated. I could probably cut it off and replace the screw, but I'd rather not if there is a better solution.
 

Mischief Managed

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Re: Loose lug screw

Take the other lug nut off and have a helper pull on the wheel to apply tension to the stud while you try to remove the nut with an impact wrench.

OR

Buy a nut splitter and crack the nut open.

That said, I think you'll need to replace the stud anyway, and perhaps the hub as well if the hole is buggered up.

Good Luck!
 

bruceb58

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Re: Loose lug screw

I assume you are talking about the stud. The stud is pressed into a hole in the hub.

1) If it is slipping because the stud is spinning in the hub, you are going to have to replace the stud anyway so I would just cut it off.

2) If the stud slipped backwards so that the "splined" area of the stud is no longer in the hole in the hub, you can use a punch from the rear of the hub and knock it back in.

Be aware that in case #1, that hole will ne enlarged and you will have to find a stud with a wider "splined" area or replace the hub. I have had a tough time finding even replacement studs that are the correct size let alone wider ones.

When I say splines, these splines are just there to aid in the compression fit in the hub, The hole in the hub is smooth.
 

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Re: Loose lug screw

Or,.....
If you've got a Welder,......
Reach in from the Backside,+ Tack the Stud in place......
 

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Re: Loose lug screw

in any case you are going to have to pull the bearing and wheel completely. good time for new bearing and seals too. you can then take the hub to the auto parts store, Advanced auto parts, have a complete assortment of studs and nuts in the back of the counter.
 

Greg2170

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Re: Loose lug screw

Thanks guys. All good advice.
I appreciate it,
Greg


Greg2170 said:
Does anyone have any suggestions on getting the lug nut off of a loose lug screw? Maybe a way to reset the screw so I can loosen the nut? Any help will be appreciated. I could probably cut it off and replace the screw, but I'd rather not if there is a better solution.
 

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Re: Loose lug screw

bruceb58 said:
2) If the stud slipped backwards so that the "splined" area of the stud is no longer in the hole in the hub, you can use a punch from the rear of the hub and knock it back in.

Be aware that in case #1, that hole will ne enlarged and you will have to find a stud with a wider "splined" area or replace the hub. I have had a tough time finding even replacement studs that are the correct size let alone wider ones.

When I say splines, these splines are just there to aid in the compression fit in the hub, The hole in the hub is smooth.

Or use the lug nut to pull the stud back into the hole.
You can find a new stud with oversized splines at the oldest autoparts store in town. They will be in the orange Dorman parts cabinet.
 

jeeperman

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Re: Loose lug screw

Bond-o said:
Or,.....
If you've got a Welder,......
Reach in from the Backside,+ Tack the Stud in place......


Only if the hub is NOT cast iron.
 

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Re: Loose lug screw

jeeperman said:
Bond-o said:
Or,.....
If you've got a Welder,......
Reach in from the Backside,+ Tack the Stud in place......


Only if the hub is NOT cast iron.

Ayuh,....... Probably have to break out the Hi-Nickle Rod for that.............
 

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Re: Loose lug screw

Nut splitter and napa has the dorman bins if you cannot get the splitter in because of room die grind it off from front or back. Where ever you can reach it or if you can hold it from the back by jamming a pair of channel locks on it against something and hit it with a air inpact wrench.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Loose lug screw

Just replace it and get it over with. Good time for a full trailer service too !!!
 

SuperNova

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Re: Loose lug screw

Personally, I just glue the lug nut to the wheel with weather strip adhesive and forget about it.
 

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Re: Loose lug screw

SuperNova said:
Personally, I just glue the lug nut to the wheel with weather strip adhesive and forget about it.
Please elaborate a little !!!
 

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Re: Loose lug screw

It was a joke. When a tech breaks off a wheel stud, a "hack-job" or "butcher" will glue the nut to the wheel to make it look like it is not broken.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Loose lug screw

SuperNova said:
It was a joke. When a tech breaks off a wheel stud, a "hack-job" or "butcher" will glue the nut to the wheel to make it look like it is not broken.
I always use velcro myself !!! LOL
 

paulie0735

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Re: Loose lug screw

If it’s a drum brake or non-braked hub than jack the trailer up, take the wheel bearing cap off, remove the split pin and undo the bearing retainer nut and washer. The complete assembly will than slid off the spindle. You can than get at the back of the hub easily. If you have the tools than it should be an easy job from there. If the axle is fitted with a disk brake than it’s a bit more complicated as you won’t be able to get the caliper off but you may be able to remove its retaining bolts and maneuver the caliper clear of the mountings so it comes off with the disk, you will also need to remove the brake line. I advise against grinding the stud off from the rear as some studs are tapered, if it is and you grind the head off you have nothing left to weld to. I recommend that you take it to a welding shop and have them tack the stud to the hub and you can than undo the nut. If you don't have a welder but insist on doing it yourself than hold the nut with a spanner and drill the stud out starting with a 1/8 drill than 1/4 than 3/8. The studs are hard carbon steel so you will need sharp drills and a lot of patience. Don’t drill all the way through with the 3/8 as you may damage the inside of the hub, just drill to the depth of the nut, by than you should be able to break the nut off with a cold chisel. When it’s off knock them all out and replace all of them on all wheels. They are fairly cheap. Just remember to take a sample of the stud with you as there are a few different ones. Also make sure you get the right nuts as the taper on the nut must match the taper on the wheel, if you fit the incorrect set than you may find the nut will bottom against the hub before it tightens against the wheel. Good luck.
 
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