look at these idiots

[RubberFrog]

m90.org/index.php?id=11568<br /><br />edit: Sorry RF. Too much advertising of unacceptable content and a commercial link.

 

[18rabbit]

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Too much porno stuff/ads hanging off that site.

 

[LadyFish]

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The Coast Guard was wrong IMO. He was approaching two boats, the smaller boat was unaware of their presence, this happens all the time. It was clear that the boaters were looking in the opposite direction. Why didn't the coast guard slow down to avoid collision and possible death. <br /><br />Just plain wrong!

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Anyone ever heard of defensive driving? Morons! .....JK

 

[KaGee]

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LF is right as usual..... yield to the craft on the right. The pilot of the CG should have been reprimanded.

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

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C&P<br />. Powerboats Crossing: All powerboats - including sailboats with their engines running and PWCs - when seeing another vessel crossing on their starboard side, are the Give-way vessel. They are required to take early and substantial action tochange course, slow down or back down until the other boat passes. If the Give-way vessel does not respond, the Stand-on vessel should take action to avoid a collision.<br /><br />Pretty clear to me. Coasties messed up. Why didn't they even TRY to avoid the other boat?

 

[ziggy]

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LadyFish<br /> The Coast Guard was wrong IMO.

i agree with ya a lot ladyfish. rules of the road 101. a boat from 0*-112.5* is the stand on vessel. that'd make the coastgaurd boat the giveway vessel. ok, so the coast garud perhaps was resoponding to another call and obviously they have the right of way then. but. the last rule of boatin is a skipper must take whatever action nessesary to avoid a collision, wheather the other boater is wrong or not. geez. the coastgaurd was even filming the lack of their vessel to take any action what so ever to avoid that collision...skipper of the coastgaurd vessell needs to walk the plank i think....

 

[Boomyal]

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It appears that the CG was ultimately in the wrong but the speed boat captain was a complete bozo. He stated that he was completely unaware of the presence of another boat "until they hit the back of my boat"<br /><br />Yeah right!!

 

[QC]

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No question in my mind. Coastie messed up. I was thinking he was distracted by the other, larger and slower boat, but then the narrator says that the Coastie was yelling at the "skipper of the speedboat". How do you acknowledge that the boat was there and then plow right into her? Lucky somebody wasn't killed . . . If I did that I'd be on 20/20 as an example of why we need licenses for pleasure boaters <br /><br />Where's ee? We need a Coastie to help us with this one . . . BTW, I hate seeing boats with fenders flopping around while underway

 

[kenimpzoom]

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All that water and these two bozos tried to fit on the same wave.<br /><br />Clearly the Coast Guard's fault.<br /><br /><br />Ken

 

[Pony]

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Now I can see how in an emergency a Coast Gaurd wessel should have the right of way regardless of any rules of boating......but at somepoint it should have become clear to the captain that the sppedboat wasnt going to give way.......both are at fault. The speedboat driver should have been paying attention to his surroundings. Based on the narrorator it seems as though the CG wasn;t on its way to anything, as they were able to perform the "unexpected rescue" and made no mention of any other mission. If thats the case then the CG messed up big time. They are probably legaly at fault......but in terms of actual fault I give them 85% and the other absent minded boater 15%.<br /><br />Does the CG have to horns to get the attention of the other boat??????

 

[JB]

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The persons at the helms of both were wrong. The operator of the USCG vessel violated right of way and the operator of the smaller vessel failed to be attentive to his path. It is not clear to me that the person shouting at the smaller vessel was the same one operating the CG boat.<br /><br />"The Coast Guard" did not teach that person to do that, so I don't buy that "the Coast Guard" was wrong. . . .liable yes, their vessel was at fault, but not the cause of the premeditated carelessness of its operator.<br /><br />The "defensive driving" strategy is even more important on the water than on the road. <br /><br />Always assume that every vessel in sight will do the stupidest, most dangerous thing possible.

 

[BoatBuoy]

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Originally posted by ziggystardust:<br />...a boat from 0*-112.5* is the stand on vessel

I watch constantly 0-360º. I always assume I'm the give-way vessel, since so many know nothing of the rules of navigation.

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

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Originally posted by JB:<br />Always assume that every vessel in sight will do the stupidest, most dangerous thing possible.

That line of thinking has saved my butt more than once.

 

[bootle]

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Originally posted by BoatBuoy:<br />

I watch constantly 0-360º. I always assume I'm the give-way vessel, since so many know nothing of the rules of navigation. <br /><br />Same here, my boat is very small and a collision like that one would be fatal.

 

[QC]

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Saying Coast Guard was at fault was not intended by anyone to blame the whole Guard et al . . .<br /><br />All of these statements about scanning 360 degrees, idiot will do whatever, all point back to the Pilot of the Coast Guard vessel as in the wrong. Legally, experience wise, practically etc. Yes, the other guy should have been watching all around. Doesn't matter; the Coastie operator not only should have been looking at the other boater, he was legally required to avoid him . . . Not sure how you blame the other guy, except that you should always have an eye out. 100% Coasties fault, with a dishonorable mention for the pleasure boater.<br /><br />Narrator does say that it was the Coast Guard Boat's "Captain" shouting at the other operator. I can't see how any of you can deflect blame from the Coastie. I tell any boater that will listen that there are very few things that slowing down doesn't fix . . .

 

[JRJ]

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The private boat wasn't paying attention so the Coast Guard T-Boned him to save other boaters. I bet that Guard crew is now tending buoys somewhere really cold

 

[Twidget]

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If the Capt. of the patrol boat was in fact an officer, I would imagine his career is down the drain.