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patrickbock

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I am 18 and just bought my first boat, my dad wasn't to keen on the idea, they're are money pits like our snowmobiles. Bought it anyway. It is an 89 sunbird with a Johnson outboard, 48 hp. It runs great when hooked up to water hose, but not in the lake. When running with water hose there is black oil coming out of exhaust when running, any suggestions.
 

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I am 18 and just bought my first boat, my dad wasn't to keen on the idea, they're are money pits like our snowmobiles. Bought it anyway. It is an 89 sunbird with a Johnson outboard, 48 hp. It runs great when hooked up to water hose, but not in the lake. When running with water hose there is black oil coming out of exhaust when running, any suggestions.

Welcome aboard, Patrick.

I'm sure members here can help get that motor running right.
What is the model number or year of your motor?
It should be a metal ID tag on the transom clamp.

edit: Dad was right. :D
 
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There's a world of difference between how an engine runs on the hose and how it runs in the water (as you've found out). When running on the hose there's zero backpressure on the exhaust, when in the water the engine has to overcome a fair amount of water pressure to push the exhaust out, which robs the engine of power.

First off check the basics. Take compression readings on all cylinders (if you don't have a compression gauge they're available at most any auto parts stores for under $20).

Check the spark on each cylinder with a variable gap spark tester set to about 7/16 inch (again, spark testers are available at most any auto parts store for around $15). The spark should be able to jump that gap with a good healthy spark when cranking the engine with the starter. Pull the plug leads off all the spark plugs when your doing this.

Look at the spark plugs, do they look the same? You can find many many examples online of what a spark plug should look like from a 2 stroke outboard.

Also, it's very very handy to have a factory service manual when doing anything on these engines (not the aftermarket manuals but the actual Johnson/Evinrude shop manual).

As for the black oil coming from the exhaust, that's not uncommon when an outboard is idled on the hose, that's unburnt 2 stroke oil.
 

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Welcome aboard, Patrick.

I'm sure members here can help get that motor running right.
What is the model number or year of your motor? MN# VJ48ESLCER
It should be a metal ID tag on the transom clamp.

edit: Dad was right. :D

Thanks for such a fast reply. I told my dad that I bet him I will be able to go boating more than we could go snowmobiling per year. His reply, probably, but it has to run first. Ha Ha....I used my dad's compression tester, the one that screw into the cylinder, and was getting readings above 120psi. I dumped all the old fuel out, My dad cleaned the carbs with a complete kit. The mixture screw was but back in same spot. My dad assured me that they are simpler than his Holley 4 barrel that he rebuilds every year regardless. That helped a lot. Another question, on the controls where you engage to go forward or reverse, the smaller lever that you raise to start the motor, how far should that really go up, should it not idle with it barely raised. Thanks Patrick I did buy a Selco manual but you think I should buy a factory manual, They are fairly expensive.
 

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I went out on the lake today and when i went to start is up it reved really high and went not shut down i turned the key off and the fuel and throttle and it would not stop until i drop it in gear then it killed itself any ideas on what this would cause thanks in advance
 

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I went out on the lake today and when i went to start is up it reved really high and went not shut down i turned the key off and the fuel and throttle and it would not stop until i drop it in gear then it killed itself any ideas on what this would cause thanks in advance

It sounds like you have a couple issues. I would start with why it won't shut off.
Did it shutdown before on the hose? Have you done anything to it since then?
 
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