Thank you for all your help on my posts regarding choosing a kicker motor. I checked out a dealer today that had a 1995 8HP stroke Johnson for $895. He started it for me mainly because I wanted to see how noisy those are compared to a 4 stroke, and it was fine. I didnt mind the noise. Ran real smooth, and started right up. Said they replaced the water pump, rebuilt the carb, and tuned it up. Just want to ask you guys if this is a good deal or not. Other choices I am considering is a new 8 HP Yamaha for 1425 + tax, a new 8HP Johnson for about $1525 final price, or a new 9.8 4 stroke Tohatsu for $1575 shipped (I hope the guy didnt make a mistake quoting that price!)