Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

lakelover

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I bought a new boat from a dealer in 2003. I just got the renewal for the registration from DMV and for the first time, noticed that the year of mfg. and length of the boat are not listed correctly. Actual year of mfg. is 2001, listed as 2003, and stated 15' length should be 14'. It's a Starcraft utility boat with a 20 hp outboard on it.

The hull ID number is correct and I have the original invoice and copy of credit card slip from payment. The instructions tell what to do if any info on the registration is incorrect: Make corrections on the renewal and send in the original title; they will issue a new title and resend the renewal.

In checking all this out, I also noticed that the boat year listed on my insurance is also 2003 (wrong).

I've more or less decided not to open up a whole can of worms with this and just let it go. It's been this way for 6 years. The only thing that sort of concerns me is the misinformation that the insurance company has.

Since it is March and I like to get on the water in May, I'm not sure the DMV can really straighten it all out in 2 months! It is a state agency after all. Registrations in NY are good for 3 years.

What do you think about all this? I never noticed the misinformation until now.

Thanks.
 

rolmops

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Re: Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

You had best go to the DMV with all your information and explain your problem.
Chances are that they will fix it on the spot.If you mail this info you will be at their mercy without a way to respond on the spot.
Usually the DMV people are eager to help.
 

Bondo

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Re: Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

I've more or less decided not to open up a whole can of worms with this and just let it go. It's been this way for 6 years.

Ayuh,... At the speed New York state's bureaucracy moves,..

I believe that You've made a mistake,... You have a 2003 boat...;)

No Way both New York State,+ your Insurance company can possibly be Wrong....
 

chiefalen

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Re: Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

Made the mistake of going into the Monticello DMV with the same problem.

What a nightmare that was. Finally six months latter it was resolved by registering the boat and trailer in NJ.

And the only reason was that the guy who is the boss at the local Dmv here is a very, very good friend, and took the time to straighten it out for me. He actually laid the money out of his pocket to register it. I paid him back the 26 bucks or whatever it was.

NY forgetaboutit.
 

crazy charlie

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Re: Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

Did you state that the "TITLE" was also incorrect????? A title comes from a "manufacturers statement of origin".which is the official document where all titles begin.Track down your mso.If it states 2003 then you have a 2003.No mistake about it.Registration can be wrong but a wrong title is very rare because it is produced from the MSO. The year is probably in the vin/hin # as well.
 

CATransplant

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Re: Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

As long as the HIN on your boat matches the registration and title, ignore this completely. It's not worth the hassle. When you finally sell it, you can state the year as 2003, and measure the boat for the buyer, so he won't expect what he's not getting.

The hassle will only be exceeded by your annoyance. Just forget it.
 

lakelover

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Re: Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

Did you state that the "TITLE" was also incorrect????? A title comes from a "manufacturers statement of origin".which is the official document where all titles begin.Track down your mso.If it states 2003 then you have a 2003.No mistake about it.Registration can be wrong but a wrong title is very rare because it is produced from the MSO. The year is probably in the vin/hin # as well.

Thanks for steering me in this direction. Looking over the info on the DMV site leaves you afraid to leave the house. In the course of gathering information, I Googled "boat hin date of manufacture" and came up with a site to help decipher HIN numbers. According to that, it is an '03 model year. There must be a mistake on my dealer invoice because it says 2001. It also looks like the HIN translates to a length of 15', although it is advertised and actually measures 14'.

Anyway I'm going to go with my first instinct, which is to leave it all alone and re-register it on line.
 

lakelover

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Re: Info on NY state Title & Registration is incorrect

As long as the HIN on your boat matches the registration and title, ignore this completely. It's not worth the hassle. When you finally sell it, you can state the year as 2003, and measure the boat for the buyer, so he won't expect what he's not getting.

The hassle will only be exceeded by your annoyance. Just forget it.

Words of wisdom if I ever heard them. Thanks everybody for your help.
 
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