In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring & p

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I could really use your help/advise.<br />I have a 2001 200HP Merc (no EFI) with one bad cylinder. Compression test showed that the 5 other cylinders were perfect at 125pds. The bad cylinder tested at 60pds.<br /><br />*How it got this way: Motor was run without oil (oil line seperated - alarm did not sound)<br /><br />*Motor still ran pretty well afterwards (did not seize)<br /><br />I have have started disassembly of the powerhead. Removal of the Head cover revealed that the bad cylinder had a cracked piston and ring.<br />To my eyes it seems the cylinder walls are in remarkably good shape. It almost looks like there may be some rub off from the rings on one spot of the cylinder wall.<br /><br />Question #1<br />I still need to access the crank shaft. Is it possible to seperate the block to gain access to the crank shaft by pulling out the bolts and NOT removing the oil tank and carbs and such as it says to do in the manual (I assume they are doing a complete overhaul - which I don't imagine I need to do) It looks like the front side of the block can be seperated as one complete unit.<br /><br />Question #2<br />This engine "was" like new. Until "it" happened.<br />Since all the other cylinders tested perfect, is it necessary to change the rings on all pistons (or all pistons..).<br />Or do you think I would be alright with the one.<br /><br />Question #3<br />The is a small chunk missing from the edge of the bad piston. Should I be worried about where this piece or pieces went?<br />Or should I assume it was tossed safely out the exhaust port. Remember, the boat was run at 53mph after the no oil situation was fixed.<br /><br />Question #4<br />Should I be worried about the connecting rod possibly being bent? Or other damage?<br /><br /><br />Please post, or email me >> goodsir1976@aol.com<br />Your input would be appreciated I can finish this project and get my boat in motion again.<br />If anyone wants to see pics I have digitals of the entire dissasembly, and the bad piston. I can email them.
 

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Re: In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring &am

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You cannot split that case without powerhead removal because the upper and lower bearing carriers are bolted to both halves of the case.Run without oil?I'dd really like to look at all those rod journals anyway.I've heard it many times."This thing was running soo great right before it let loose".
 

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Re: In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring &am

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I just finished a rebuild on a kawasaki 1100 jetski, not to different from your outboard. The damage you sustained was similar to the customers recollect on his. He then commenced to "patch it" needless to say it only lasted nearly a day.<br />I wish there was a quick easy fix, but there really is not. After teardown we found flattened<br />needle bearings imbedded in the lower case, and under the reed stops. A full teardown should be performed. Although if you are feeling evil, patch it, make sure it runs, and sell it to a liberal!
 

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Re: In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring &am

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YamaCruiser,<br /><br />Thanks for your input. <br />I'm still having trouble seperating the crank case cover from the Cylinder block... using pry bars and not budging. A lot of fresh paint my be my prob. Engine is so new...<br /><br />Yeah. I know I should open the whole thing up.<br />If I had pieces of a piston seperate inside where do you suppose they would have went... (anyone?)<br />Out the exhuast port? Could they potentially cause more damage ,. or are they likely tossed out or stuck somewhere??<br /><br />greg (200hp 2001 Merc outboard, no efi)
 

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More help please!
 

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I do not sell this as advise, but, I have just done the one cylinder with success a couple of times. IF YOU SAY everything is clean, you can just pull the intake/reed cover (with the carbs on) off and get access to the rod caps. Pull the cap off the bad pistons and tap/push it out the top. You will then see how bad the cylinder is. You will need a new piston for sure, but you will need to measure wear after honing/cleaning up. The piston pieces are gone most likely. Your head would be beat up if anything got in there. Most times the piston starts melting away (scoring)onto the cylinder wall and out. I have only done this on motors that were "clean as a whistle" with little or no wear. I have always been able to pull the intakes with gaskets intact. You will need a head gasket for sure. Don't do any of this without a manual.
 

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Re: In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring &am

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Do you have the powerhead off of the lower engine. <br /><br />On my 115, there is a plate on the bottom of the engine that you have to remove to split the intake from the powerhead. I would guess that your engine has the same.<br /><br />Fresh paint is no match for a pry bar. You have missed some bolts somewhere.<br /><br /><br />k
 

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All good info, thanks.<br /><br />Yes I have the cylinder block and entire unit on a work bench. I don't think I'm missing any bolts. Somone told me they use an adhesive to seal the crank case cover to the cylinder block.<br />Assuming my bad cylinder is still within it's specs after honing I think I will give it a go with just fixing the one bad cylinder.<br /><br />So I'll need a new piston, and new ring, as well as the obvious gaskets. Anything else? Should I use any goops seals or lube anywhere?<br /><br />greg (2001 Mercury 200 HP Outboard, NO EFI)
 

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I wouldn't chance it. You can get one cylinder bored .015 over for around 50 bucks. The pistons are ususally the same price.<br /><br />In my opinion, it is very much worth it knowing that you have a good new hole at the specified size for the piston. You don't want to open that engine back up anytime soon if you don't have to.<br /><br />k
 

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Re: In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring &am

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If my cylinder requires boring, is it ok to bore just the one and get and over sized ring/piston.<br />If any, I would only need a minimal amount of boring.<br /><br />Or does this in some way create problems for the engine.<br /><br />greg (2001 Merc 200HP., NO EFI)
 

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Re: In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring &am

Re: In search of some guidance with my 2001 200HP Merc with one cracked ring &am

Yes you can bore just one cyl. If you are using pistons from the same manufacture.
 

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thanks,<br /><br />greg
 
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