I vote yes

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only thing different is I would have to have any parent sign a waiver but all for it.


http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/california-dads-playborhood-lets-kids-take-risks/

Interesting. I did so many of those things growing up but without any safety equipment or other things to keep from getting hurt. Did I get hurt? You bet! But nothing requiring any serious medical attention. Did I get cuts, bruises and sprains? Absolutely, but we learned from such things as well. We built tree houses way up in trees, and forts, and bike jumps and everything we could think of. And no one ever got seriously hurt...ever. These days, kids are wrapped up with every type pad, safety helmets and such so they never experience any form of hurt, that is IF you can pry them from the computer games. Sad isn't it.
 

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Keeping in mind that 'we' are the ones that survived . . .

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tpenfielld, certainly not disputing your graph, but seems we swapped injuries with obesity these days. Kids that I see are really over weight because most don't play out side like we did decades ago. They come home from school and grab their computers and video game devices and such and play video games until. Those statistics will show up later in their years with all types of medical issue. So not so sure protecting them against any injuries is a great thing. Just rambling here.
 

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tpenfielld, certainly not disputing your graph, but seems we swapped injuries with obesity these days. Kids that I see are really over weight because most don't play out side like we did decades ago. They come home from school and grab their computers and video game devices and such and play video games until. Those statistics will show up later in their years with all types of medical issue. So not so sure protecting them against any injuries is a great thing. Just rambling here.

Understood . . . two edges to every sword . . . it is not only that we live it is how we live . . . :)

I know for myself growing up as a kid with me and my siblings, we collectively had many more 'injuries' that got us to the hospital than my kids ever did. Most of them were a bit bloody as I recall.
 

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I would need to see the data behind your chart, could car accidents, pill od, far accinents who know but not oart of play.

i seconf the obesity but also add to that the little thing called imagination. I used sticks as gun in our war games until i was prob 8 when i could use my allowance for a cap gun. With pqper caps.

i remeber hours alone or with froeds talking building riding etc not lookimg at a screen.


i truly think it will impact our country in a few mor years.
 

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here lies the problem back in the 80's 90's a kid got hurt we took them to doctor and it was fixed relatively cheap now a days a broken arm can set family's back 5000 or more with rising costs and insurances paying less then they used to, I think that fed into it .
other thing is predators , back in my day a predator would have faced a pack of kids most times and they weren't on every block now a days id not let my kids go door to door folks are just nuts.
 

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Teue, but is it perception or that we only let kids out one by one. A pack is a deterrent, and i was rarely not in a pack
 

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kids 12 wide walking down road lol those were the days with 5 big dogs following us :)
 

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Keeping in mind that 'we' are the ones that survived . . .


My pals and I did 3/4 gainers into snow banks off of 3 story apartment buildings under construction... I'm glad it was prior to the chart.
 

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looked and source data not too good for pulling out details to but this is pretty good I guess. Lots of motor vehicle crashes. I bet if we got detail data a large chunk of your chart would be int he motor vehicle area. Much safer cars and roads than when we were kids, plus seat belt behaviour. I lost a couple friends because I required everyone to wear a seatbelt.



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tpenfielld, certainly not disputing your graph, but seems we swapped injuries with obesity these days. Kids that I see are really over weight because most don't play out side like we did decades ago. They come home from school and grab their computers and video game devices and such and play video games until. Those statistics will show up later in their years with all types of medical issue. So not so sure protecting them against any injuries is a great thing. Just rambling here.

I have a few questions about the graph.

1) How does the "Males" number exceed the "Totals " number?....a few obvious opportunities for "male"-stereotypical comments notwithstanding.... :) ?
2) How does the sum of "Males" plus "Females" not equal the ""Total" ? (again, some gender-specific SACs notwithstanding) . ?

It's all based on "per 100K", so should be able to add them....unless I'm missing something...which as my wife constantly reminds me, is always a primary possibility....:)
 

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I have a few questions about the graph.

1) How does the "Males" number exceed the "Totals " number?....a few obvious opportunities for "male"-stereotypical comments notwithstanding.... :) ?
2) How does the sum of "Males" plus "Females" not equal the ""Total" ? (again, some gender-specific SACs notwithstanding) . ?

It's all based on "per 100K", so should be able to add them....unless I'm missing something...which as my wife constantly reminds me, is always a primary possibility....:)

That was my initial reaction till I remembered it is number per 100,000 ... so if you add the numbers you have numbers per 200,000. But you can't average them together because there is not an equal number of male and female. So the combined number is combined male and female number per 100,000, not the average or the addition of the 2 numbers.
 

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Yes, the graph (which I did not invent by the way :D )

Let's take 2012 for example . . .

Boys die at a rate of 12.5 per 100,000

Girls die at a rate of 6.9 per 100,000

The average of the two (boys and girls) is 9.8 per 100,000 (actually doing the math it is 9.7, assuming an equal number of boys & girls per 100,000, which is probably off a bit) More boys are born than girls by a couple percent . . .
 

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WOW did this get way off from the original post or what? I apologize for bringing up the past. :sorry:
 

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After watching the video, I agree with some, but not all of it. I believe kids need unstructured play but also need boundaries. Playing on the roof of the actual house is just one example of where the boundary needs to be set.
 

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This is dockside. When I'm sitting on the dock with my friends conversations go all over the place from where they started.
 

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wandering conversations are good sometimes we get stuck on the same debate , it gets old :0
 
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