I made a mistake, maybe 2 or 3

hulteen

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I want to apologize for earlier repetative and annoying posts, I am sorry, I am just agrivated with a boat I just bought and maybe shouldn't have. It ran great when I looked at it. and I thought I was getting a good deal but should have already known there is no such thing, anyway back to the point and an explanation of why I am so annoyed by this boat and maybe to see if anyone is still willing or even able to help. Before I went on the water I knew I was required to install a kill switch. So, to that end I took the ignition switch out of my dash panel, only to discover more rotted wiring than I have ever seen...... :eek: . To be safe I traced the wiring all the way back and discovered every inch of it was rotting away. I got inside the cover of the engine, same story, a 1974 Mercury 850 Thunderbolt Ign. to be exact, anyway back to my point, wires to the switchbox, stator, rectifier, choke everything, the insulation flaked away just like dried mud :mad: (But, what could I expect from a 28 year old motor/boat) . I decided I would start by replacing the stator, well to get at that I had to get the flywheel off, well, I went after the thing with the center nut off with a flywheel puller, would not budge, So I figured oh well, maybe If I take these 8 bolts out, maybe then the thing will come off (didn't mark the thing :rolleyes: , smart move on my part). Three days later stator in hand, I noticed that the belt going to the distributor is cracked and has a bit of slack in it, decided it to replace it too, now, up until then the xerox pages from the manual had helped me got the stator and that belt replaced then, It occured to me that I then had no idea how the flywheel had been positioned. It is missing the decal, and all I have is one dot, and the 3 dots in a line?? anyway, I am not really sure how to get this back together, I can handle the wiring, no biggie, got that covered, My best guess that I can come up with is to mark TDC cyl #1 on the flywheel and some stationary point. then point the rotor button in the distributor to plug #1 and install belt (on a side note, the pulley on the distributor does not have an arrow on it as the manual said :( ), and then use a protractor and a ruler to mark degrees on the flywheel then set the timing according to that?? I don't know if I am on the right track, or If I'm going to maybe burn a hole in a piston trying, I'm sorry I was rude in earlier posts, I didn't mean to be I am just frusterated with this thing and having serious second thoughts about having bought it, not to mention feeling a bit ripped off, and I'm sorry about the choppy structure of this post, but If anyone knows If I am doing this right or how to get the flywheel, and distributor belt installed correctly without the decal only the dots on the flywheel, I would appriciate it very much, and if nobody knows that ok too, just thanks to whoever reads this, and for your time.
 

bigbluebirdy

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Re: I made a mistake, maybe 2 or 3

Sorry Need Merc, I can't help you. I wish I could. But I bet with that detailed a description, that one of these folks will be able to help you. I too have been discouraged after feeling like I got a raw deal. Just try to think about that day you'll be cruising around. :cool: It'll be worth the work. It sounds like you have already fought a lot of the battle. Good luck.<br /><br />bbb
 

tmcalavy

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Re: I made a mistake, maybe 2 or 3

Try this on the old Merc board at:<br />www.pfs-ware.com<br />Then John's Old Merc site,<br />Then Q&A page.<br />Someone there will help you out. Ask for Barf, really.
 

RandyJ

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Re: I made a mistake, maybe 2 or 3

The rotted wiring sounds very normal for old Merc's. I've re-wired my share. Retail for a replacement engine harness is about $120. The top of the distributor belt pulley should have a line which will line up with one of the two marks on the flywheel. The other mark on the flywheel should be in about the same position on the other side of the motor, kinda like a mirror image... at least that seems to be my experience messing with OLD 50 hp motors @ circa 1970's
 

hulteen

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Re: I made a mistake, maybe 2 or 3

Thanks for the info, y'all, I think I may have gotten the weird motor. It has now arrow or line on the distributor pulley but it does have a kind of dowel pin looking object coming out of the pulley, I have no decal on the flywheel but I have 1 dot in one place and 3 dots in a row vertically, assuming the pulley belt hasn't jumped I suppose I could re-asemble the flywheel according to that, but should I line up the pin on the distributor pulley with the 3 dots, or the one dot?? and what do those dots mean anyway? thanks in advance.<br /><br />Josh
 

Greg Moss

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Re: I made a mistake, maybe 2 or 3

this is how you do it, first you needd to get number one cylinder to TDC. that is the top one. next if you haven't take the top off the ditrirbutor pulley. there will be an arrow on the cast part of the pulley. the timing pointer needs to point at TDC the three dots will have to line up about 3/4" to the right of the timing pointer. The center hub of the flywheel is machiined with one wide spline so the hub only will go on one way. bolt it together that way with lock tite. next you have to put the belt and the stator on. the belt will be difficult to in stall on the flywheel just take your time. Set the flywheel over the crank and feed the belt around the pully on the hub of the flywheel, set the flywheel down on the crank slowly and make sure you do not pinch the belt. make sure flywheel is seated down correctlyand turn flywheel til the 3 dots line up with the timing pointer. point arrow on cast distributor pully at the three dots and install the belt. put the top pulley back on the distributor. Greg
 
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