How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

[CharlieB]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Teaching kids to use guns at an early age will not make them want to shoot other people, but not teaching them about guns can lead to accidents when they see a gun, they're fascinated by it, and don't know how to handle it.

Exactly!

Responsibility is LEARNED and becomes a way of life, it is not a lesson that can be accomplished in a five minute lecture but is shown repeatedly by examples and behavior, most often, in the woods.

Both my kids, 40 and 37 can handle weapons responsibly, and the 6 y.o. G'son has been pressing me for a year to take him to the range so he can practice.

 

[82rude]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

no issues here from this canuck!country boy ,farm boy on my moms side in the summer .i can still remember my uncle giving us boys 22,s and a box each and telling us to clear out the vermin from the old barns at a tender age.of course we all knew how to use them safely and if anybody broke the rules uncle frank would deal with us in a most unpleasent manner,lol.

 

[Fleetwin]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Forgive me I'm Canadian, but are you sure that putting a 22 in the hands of an 11 & 13 year old is smart. And please don't give me the right to bear arms thing.

I'm not trying to start anything , I'm just concerned about children having guns.

Yes, you're Canadian. We love our neighbors to the North. Great Country, nice folks.

However, your Government decided FOR YOU that you cannot do this.

I was taught gun safety at a very young age. That eliminated the hysterical thinking regarding what firearms can and cannot do. I taught my sons the same. I have a once skeptical DIL that has since been converted and now is embarrassed about her past hysteria. She loves to shoot and has become very good.

Shooting/target shooting is a great hobby. Relatively cheap compared to some other hobbies. It teaches: concentration, consistancy and responsibility. What can be wrong with that?

 

[RogersJetboat454]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Responsibility is LEARNED and becomes a way of life, it is not a lesson that can be accomplished in a five minute lecture but is shown repeatedly by examples and behavior, most often, in the woods.

+1 ^^^^

Guess you could classify me as an outsider on this response, because I don't have kids (yet). But honestly, I would feel more comfortable handing the kids a .22 riffle to target shoot with while under supervision, then I would be handing the kids the keys to a dirt bike or ATV (not that there is anything hugely wrong with that either) to go ride off in the woods with.

 

[rbh]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Yes, you're Canadian. We love our neighbors to the North. Great Country, nice folks.

However, your Government decided FOR YOU that you cannot do this.

I was taught gun safety at a very young age. That eliminated the hysterical thinking regarding what firearms can and cannot do. I taught my sons the same. I have a once skeptical DIL that has since been converted and now is embarrassed about her past hysteria. She loves to shoot and has become very good.

Shooting/target shooting is a great hobby. Relatively cheap compared to some other hobbies. It teaches: concentration, consistancy and responsibility. What can be wrong with that?

The right to shoot at stuff at a young age is traditional right here as well, it more of a city VS country mentality, and I am pretty sure you guys have that down there as well.

The biggest difference is side arms and any rifle/assault weapon that has a 20-30 round mag, you can get them, you just have to do "ALOT" of paper work, to many crazies to let those things be easily obtainable.

 

[Tim Frank]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

However, your Government decided FOR YOU that you cannot do this.

Whoever told you that is clueless. :facepalm:

 

[Fleetwin]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Whoever told you that is clueless. :facepalm:

Good point. I am probably wrong. I hope I am.

Can a Canadian citizen keep firearms in their home and use them whenever they desire?

The Canadian friends I have tell me differently. By the way, I see them at the range. They leave their firearms here in the US.

 

[rbh]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Good point. I am probably wrong. I hope I am.

Can a Canadian citizen keep firearms in their home and use them whenever they desire?

The Canadian friends I have tell me differently. By the way, I see them at the range. They leave their firearms here in the US.

YUP, just gotta lock them up.

 

[Fleetwin]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

I stand corrected. I guess I know "clueless Canadians". They leave their firearms here due to border issues, etc. Understandable.

I found this:

who wish to possess or acquire firearms in Canada must have a valid possession-acquisition, or possession-only, licence (PAL/POL); either of these licences allows the licensee to purchase ammunition. The PAL is distributed exclusively by the RCMP and is generally obtained in the following three steps:

Safety training: To be eligible to receive a PAL, all applicants must successfully complete the Canadian Firearms Safety Course[15] (CFSC) for a non-restricted licence, and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course[16] (CRFSC) for a restricted licence; the non-restricted class is a prerequisite to the restricted licence. The RCMP publishes information on the locations and availability of these courses.[17]
Applying for a licence: Currently only one type of licence is available to new applicants, the possession-acquisition licence (PAL). People can request a PAL by filling out Form CAFC 921.[18]
Security screening: Background checks and investigations are performed. All applicants are screened, and a mandatory 28-day waiting period is imposed on first-time applicants, but response time may be longer.[19]
Licences are typically valid for five years and must be renewed prior to expiry to maintain all classes. Once licensed, an individual can apply for a firearm transfer;[20] and an authorization to transport[21] (ATT) for restricted firearms.

(Note: People may hunt with firearms in Canada only with non-restricted firearms. This requires an additional "Hunting with Firearms" course)

It "appears" that you have to have a license to own a firearm. Not so here. We do not require a license to own a firearm here. While I have a Concealed Permit, here in the US, it does nothing other than making the purchase a whole lot smoother.

I have numerous "unregistered" firearms. I wouldn't know who to register them with? Or, why. They are shotguns and .22's. Certainly not mass quantity magazine types. I keep them for enjoyment and their craftsmanship qualities.

 

[rbh]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Thanks for reminding me as I need to fill in the new (5 years are up) paper work and get a new picture taken.


I hate picture day.

 

[Fleetwin]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Thanks for reminding me as I need to fill in the new (5 years are up) paper work and get a new picture taken.


I hate picture day.

Oh, what joy.

Here, in the States, some states allow you to keep your old drivers licenses, destroyed of course but the pic. is intact.

My god, Have I aged that much? It's a conspiracy!!!!

BTW, I have yet to hear if you can wear out the barrel of a .22. I've gotten a couple of them pretty hot (not glowing or anything) but enough to burn yourself.

What say, y'all?

My favorite .22 is a 1937 Springfield Bolt Action single shot with an incredibly long barrel. It was Dad's. He bought it when he was a teenager. The most accurate .22 I've ever fired.

My next favorite is a Browning (1966) take apart model. The one that fed the bullets from the stock. I've been offered big $$$ for that one. Even more than a new one-still made-over $600.00. No way. It is perfect in every way. It was my Christmas gift in 1969. I was ten.

I loved that one so much I kind of put it away. It's kind of like a 1966 "folding" Evinrude Lightwin still in the case.

I've had/used many Winchesters/Marlins and such, in the meantime. My current stock of .22's is:

-Browning.
-Springfield. The old one.
-Marlin "66".
-Marlin lever action.
-Henry lever action.
-Colt "Frontier" pistol.

 

[JimS123]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Forgive me I'm Canadian, but are you sure that putting a 22 in the hands of an 11 & 13 year old is smart. And please don't give me the right to bear arms thing.

I'm not trying to start anything , I'm just concerned about children having guns.

I couldn't agree with you more. There is no way that any CHILDREN should have a gun in their hands. The worst and most unsafe gun handlers are CHILDREN that I have seen on the range. And they were all probably in their late 20's, and speaking with them they were never properly trained or supervised when they were younger because their parents did not believe in owning a gun.

In my case, both my boys weer given rifles when they were 7 year old young adults. They were properly superived until they were in their teens, than allowed to be on their own at times. Now, they are in their 30's and as safe and responsible as could be.

 

[JimS123]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

BTW, I have yet to hear if you can wear out the barrel of a .22. I've gotten a couple of them pretty hot (not glowing or anything) but enough to burn yourself.

What say, y'all?

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For a .22 it can go tens of thousands of rounds before it will "wear out" I have a 1908 Stevens that has a "worn out" barrel - at least it looks pretty bad, being pitted with little rifling left. I have no idea how many rounds went thru her. Nevertheless, it still shoots straighter than my 2011 mexican made Mossberg...!!! (but that's yet another story....LOL)

 

[Fleetwin]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

I couldn't agree with you more. There is no way that any CHILDREN should have a gun in their hands. The worst and most unsafe gun handlers are CHILDREN that I have seen on the range. And they were all probably in their late 20's, and speaking with them they were never properly trained or supervised when they were younger because their parents did not believe in owning a gun.

In my case, both my boys weer given rifles when they were 7 year old young adults. They were properly superived until they were in their teens, than allowed to be on their own at times. Now, they are in their 30's and as safe and responsible as could be.

I agree with JimS123.

"Late 20's" aren't Children. But many adults confuse the date lines. Many adults aren't adults either. Age does not necessarily instill wisdom.

I NEVER had an issue with my pre-teen boys handling firearms. Just like actual FIRE, they learned to repect it/them.

I thought that is what parenting is all about. Actually teaching them something.

 

[Fleetwin]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

For a .22 it can go tens of thousands of rounds before it will "wear out" I have a 1908 Stevens that has a "worn out" barrel - at least it looks pretty bad, being pitted with little rifling left. I have no idea how many rounds went thru her. Nevertheless, it still shoots straighter than my 2011 mexican made Mossberg...!!! (but that's yet another story....LOL)

I didn't think so since the projectile is pretty slow and small.

My previous post states my favorite. A bolt action, single shot, 1937 Springfield. What a piece of Craftmanship. You had to plan your shots with that one. If you did/do, it is dead on. I've amazed myself and my shooting companions as to what I can hit at 100 yards with open sights.

 

[Andrewsmith1]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Usually I can make a brick of ammo last a full day. I don't usually rapid fire even in my semi-autos. However I recently bought a new Ruger mini-14 tactical and 10 30 round magazines. I loaded up all of the magazines with some bulk 5.56 Nato rounds and headed to the range with a friend who has the same rifle. We set up a couple of cases of clay pigeons on the berm at 100 yards and started plinking away. Since I never had to do a magazine swap when I ran dry I managed to fire 300 rounds in less than 30 minutes. The barrel got so hot that it melted the towel on the shooting bench when I set it down. We dusted all of those clays in a hurry. When the dust had settled I realized I had burned $150 in ammo and we had just arrived at the range. I collected all my brass to reload and switched to the .22 for some cheap slower fire shooting. One $15 dollar brick of ammo lasted me the rest of the day. I don't don't rapid fire anymore.

I have seen well maintained .22 barrels that still look and shoot great after more than 200,000 rounds fired through them. The trick is to keep them cleaned after firing. Many people don't clean their .22s after every range session because they will often be able to shoot 1000 rounds or so and still function fine. One of my best shooters is a 1934 Mossberg Model 10 single shot bolt action. It was a birthday gift from my father when I turned 8 years old. The previous owner cleaned it after every hunting or range trip and I have done the same. It is a tack driver despite having 10s of thousands of rounds fired through it.

I was taught gun safety from the moment I got my first BB gun at 6 years of age. My father engrained it into my head and if he saw me violate a safety rule the shooting session was immediately over and I got a good lecture about what my safety violation could have resulted in.

 

[jimmy wise]

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I have to laugh. Go back in history. Before TV and all this non sense. Boys went everywhere with 22 rifles. How often was there an accident. I find it amazing that people feel this way. We lack common sense nowadays. When I was little in the 70s the grampus offered us chaw at 7. While working at the gun club.

 

[FLATHEAD]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

Sometimes a kid of 11 or 12 can be more safe with a gun then an adult. I started shooting competitive trap when I was ten. I was taught the safe , proper way to handle guns from a very young age. The same cant be said for the knucklehead that walks into wally world and buys his first gun without having a clue.

 

[angus63]

Re: How long does it take to "plink" 250 rounds?

I stand corrected. I guess I know "clueless Canadians". They leave their firearms here due to border issues, etc. Understandable.

I found this:

who wish to possess or acquire firearms in Canada must have a valid possession-acquisition, or possession-only, licence (PAL/POL); either of these licences allows the licensee to purchase ammunition. The PAL is distributed exclusively by the RCMP and is generally obtained in the following three steps:

Safety training: To be eligible to receive a PAL, all applicants must successfully complete the Canadian Firearms Safety Course[15] (CFSC) for a non-restricted licence, and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course[16] (CRFSC) for a restricted licence; the non-restricted class is a prerequisite to the restricted licence. The RCMP publishes information on the locations and availability of these courses.[17]
Applying for a licence: Currently only one type of licence is available to new applicants, the possession-acquisition licence (PAL). People can request a PAL by filling out Form CAFC 921.[18]
Security screening: Background checks and investigations are performed. All applicants are screened, and a mandatory 28-day waiting period is imposed on first-time applicants, but response time may be longer.[19]
Licences are typically valid for five years and must be renewed prior to expiry to maintain all classes. Once licensed, an individual can apply for a firearm transfer;[20] and an authorization to transport[21] (ATT) for restricted firearms.

(Note: People may hunt with firearms in Canada only with non-restricted firearms. This requires an additional "Hunting with Firearms" course)

It "appears" that you have to have a license to own a firearm. Not so here. We do not require a license to own a firearm here. While I have a Concealed Permit, here in the US, it does nothing other than making the purchase a whole lot smoother.

I have numerous "unregistered" firearms. I wouldn't know who to register them with? Or, why. They are shotguns and .22's. Certainly not mass quantity magazine types. I keep them for enjoyment and their craftsmanship qualities.

I bet many Americans would be surprised to know that many local jurisdictions require a permit and charge a fee to possess any firearms. All residents of New York City, for one example, are required to purchase a permit to possess any firearm, including shotguns and hunting rifles.