how do I test a starter solenoid?

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jwilkey84

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I just rewired my johnson 20hp because of corrosion issues. This motor is new to me, and after the rewire the starter wont engage by using the key. I know the starter is good, but maybe it is the solenoid. How can I check to see if that is my problem, using a voltmeter. The electric choke works, but the starter wont engage. Thanks
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

1) Battery Load tested and charged to 12.65 volts?

2) With that battery out of the boat it is a good time to polish those connections. Don’t just look at them, make them shine! Also inspect the wiring thoroughally, buldges in the insulation or crunching as you flex it are a sure sign that the wiring is corroded internally. Replace as needed.

3) With the cables clean and tight and a good battery, you can now see if the problem occurs. If it doesn't you are golden. If it still doesn't work or works sporadically, check and clean the remaining cable connections on the solenoid and the starter. Once again, don’t just look at them, make them shine.

4) If it now works you are ready to go fishing. If not, use a short jumper wire to short the small terminal on the solenoid to the large terminal on the solenoid (the one that has the POSITIVE battery cable connected to it). Be prepared for a spark. You are really doing the same thing that the ignition key does in the START position. If the engine spins fine every time, you either fixed the problem, or if not, the problem is in the harness between the engine and ignition switch.

5) Disconnect and inspect the large red harness plug in the cowl. Clean it as best you can with electrical contact cleaner, smear some grease around the contact edges and reconnect. Now use the ignition switch to try and start the engine. If it works every time the connector was the culprit. If not, you now need your trusty voltmeter.

6) Put the POS voltmeter lead on the small terminal on the solenoid. The NEG lead goes to ground. Have someone turn the ignition key to START. If you don't see 12V troubleshoot the harness between the engine and control box. If 12V is present every time, the switch is good.

7) Measure the voltage at the starter (+) terminal while somebody turns the key over to "start" - if you get within half a volt or so of the battery voltage, the starter is faulty.

Bad voltage at starter (with clean tight connections), measure the voltage at the solenoid small terminal with the yellow/red wire with the key turned over to "start" you should read within a half-volt of battery voltage, otherwise you have a wiring fault between the keyswitch & solenoid. Good voltage at solenoid but bad voltage at starter means faulty solenoid.

8) Now connect a single jumper cable between the POS battery terminal and directly to the large terminal on the starter. If the starter spins each time you do that, the solenoid is likely the culprit.

9) Connect another jumper cable to the NEG battery terminal and a good ground (bare bolt head or bracket) on the engine. Now do the same test you did in step 8. If the starter now goes ok, you still have a negative battery cable problem or the solenoid is bad.
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

My solenoid has two big terminals, and two small terminals which ones do I use to short with a piece of wire?
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

My solenoid has two big terminals, and two small terminals which ones do I use to short with a piece of wire?

:confused:How is shorting the terminals of the solenoid going to test it to see if it's good or bad. Crossing the solenoid shouldn't be a normal, although it has been done by even me but it isn't healthy for the solenoid. Have you considered the ignition switch?
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

when I checked for continuity between the white and green wires on the key switch, it tested positive when the key was turned so I figured the key swith was good.
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

Use a standard voltage drop test if you want to just use a voltmeter.
 

jwilkey84

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

I am not sure what a voltage drop test is.
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

K.I.S.S. METHOD...

Make sure it is in neutral or that the neutral switch in the controls is being engaged. I had to learn that one the hard way in the middle of a lake!!!

Let me know if it works for ya!
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

You can search on the web for "voltage drop test". Very common- invented by cavemen.

When there is resistance in a circuit, you can find it by touch (heat), or voltage drop.

So, put your positive voltmeter lead on the battery positive terminal and the voltmeter negative lead on the large incoming solenoid/battery terminal post and hit the starter switch. If the voltage meter reads more than .3 volts, the battery cable is bad, corroded or has a bad connection.

Next, connect the voltmeter negative lead to the outgoing large solenoid post and the postive voltmeter lead to the incoming large solenoid post while cranking the starter. If the voltmeter reads greater than .2 volts, the solenoid is bad, corroded or has a bad connection.

Next, connect the positive voltmeter lead to the outgoing large solenoid post and the negative voltmeter lead to the starter positive post and hit the starter switch. A reading of over .2 volts indicates a bad wire between the solenoid and the starter.

Lastly, connect the negative battery post to the negative voltmeter lead and the positive voltmeter lead to the engine block and crank the engine. A reading of greater than .3 volts indicates a bad negative cable, corrosion or a bad cable connection.

The idea is that normally when you put both leads of a voltmeter on the same side of a circuit you should get no reading.
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

Jump the two large terminals ... the starter should operate. If it does, and you're sure the keyswitch is wired correctly and it doesn't operate the starter, the solenoid is bad. [One large lead is directly from the battery and the other goes to the starter]. Simple.
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

Speaking of simple, did you recheck the fuse?
 

jwilkey84

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

this is a 72' 20 hp johnson, I don't beleive it has a fuse.
 

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Re: how do I test a starter solenoid?

Does it click? If it does, it's not the solenoid, it's the starter (armature not being energized) this could be just the brushes. Do your lights, and gauges go out when you hit the key? if so it's corrosion on the terminals.
 

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I have a similar problem,58 Evinrude lark 35 hp with electric start,no click or anything when I turn the key,running lights,electric choke all functional,key will shut motor off once it’s manually started.im lost
 

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