Honda 130 not peeing

jcacchio

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I have twin honda 130s on my 2002 GW Gulfstream.with 550 hours on them. Don't have any major issues with them except the annoying problem that I don't always get a good stream of water. Sometimes they just drip. Sometimes if I go faster they will start peeing, but often I have to use a small piece of outrigger wire to get them peeing again. As I get older it is getting more difficult to access the hole, especially if I am on the water. Is this a sign of a bigger problem that I may be ignoring and is there any way to correct it besides me constantly cleaning the hole? It is beginning to worry me as I have to keep checking for a water stream while I am on the water.
 

tlewis1

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Sounds like your due for a water pump replacement in both motors. Water pumps should be routine maintenance and should be done at least every 3 years.
 

Sea Rider

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Welcome to Iboats,

Are both OB's used on salt water ? Are flushed after use with fresh water on muffs, flushing port, whatever ? Live moored ? Is water pump/impeller old/new ? Are thermostats in good condition, that's not rusted, extremely crust salted ?

550 worked hours is a lot, when highly used, thin salt layers begins forming inside all water passages, lessens water flow passing through powerhead and internal peeing port. Is outter peeing port plastic or metal ?

Happy Boating
 

jcacchio

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The boat is kept in salt water in a slip in Maryland from May until October. Engines are not flushed with fresh water. I really have no way to do it. All maintenance is done by a boat dealer. Impellers, thermostats replaced every year, water pumps every other year. water pumps done this spring. Boat put in the water this past weekend. Outer peeing port is plastic I think.
 

Sea Rider

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Plainly understand that's impossible to flush OB's with fresh water after use. The issue is that moored OB's on salt water use will collect thin salt layers one on top of the other due to hundreds of hot/cold cycles when in use. Remove boat from water and flush each OB with Salt Away Product poured on barrel for some time, see if this product works as stated. Works OK on new OB's flushed regularly, will do its homework right with old ones, who knows ?

As we don't have Salt Away product available, when having those issues, attach a flush plug on my OB powerhead, remove thermostat, put cover bolted back in and connect direct to a water hose that delivers high water pressure, let flush for at least 15 minutes.

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To illustrate better, this is a salt water used OB with 600 worked hours flushed for 10 minutes after each outingt on muffs & high water pressure. Still forms salt layers throughout the entire water passages with use. So if dealing with salt, can't possible win the battle LOL!!

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Other option depending on clog/crust condition is connect a Karcher Washing Machine set at lowest pressure to flush port and flush at a much higher water pressure for 10 minutes. See if both procedures can be done while boat rests next to a pier provided that those OB's count with a flushing port on the inside or outside of OB.

If both options which works opt for me doesn't work properly, must remove cylinder head, exhaust cover from powerhead, spray shots ofy pure vinegar on water passages, let soak for some minutes to desolve salt properly, then mechanically remove with a thin wooden sushi stick formed salt layes/crusts as not to scratch internal water passags that will collect salt back again very soon if severely scratched.

Happy Boating
 

ahicks

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Erratic pee would get my attention as well. I'd be talking to the local Honda dealer/mechanic. It may be that nothing but the pee port is blocked, but it could be something more serious as well, and finding out the hard way is generally never a pleasant experience - especially when a couple hours out of port....
 

Sea Rider

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Intruduce W40 red cannula deeply into peeing port and squirt several shots of product, let soak. Go for a wot spin as if stealing the combo, check if cleared. If clogs frequently, are salt build-ups inside powerhead...

Having new impellers wouldn't worry too much about erratic peeing, unless OB starts to overheat. I guess it's always nice to see an OB peeing as a teenager LOL!!

Happy Boating
 
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