Hole in oil case. Brazing or Welding to fix it?

Brown Trout

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Hi

I have been lurking around this forum for a while and decided to register now, hoping for some advice on my new found problem.

I have a '92 Honda BF8A which has been running fine up until a few months ago. After a oil level check I discovered the crank case oil has been contaminated, resembling a Caff? latte more than motor oil. I suspected salt water had contaminated the oil and decided to overhaul the engine and change the gaskets.

Disassembling was a charm (except from a stuck vertical shaft, needing some muscle to loosen). Most of the gaskets looked fine so I can't pinpoint where the leak where, but the thermostat where stuck open and a lot of salt deposit where found in the cylinder cooling channels. I heard some things about thermostats stuck open causing condensation, so that might be the source of my problem. Anyhow, since I have disassembled the complete motor I may as well change all the gaskets and o-rings (or does anyone disagree?).

But to the more serious problem. Having cleaned the upper unit/oil case i discovered a small hole in the case. The location is between the oil sump and the exhaust pipe. Picking on it made the hole larger and it looks like a large piece of the cast has been removed, due to corrosion maybe? I will try to get a photo of the damage later this day.

So the question is how do i repair this? Scraping or buying a new oil case seem to be a expensive choice at this moment, and I would rather try to fix it first. Not very familiar with outboard engine repair, but i guess the material of the oil case is cast aluminum alloy. Searching a bit on the internet revealed its a difficult material to weld and TIG welding is the preferred choice. Not having the equipment or knowledge, another solution presented are brazing using "Durafix" or similar. I have a Oxy-fuel torch and propane torch and from the manufacturer reviews and videos it looks like a "relative simple" fix.

Have anyone tried this before? I believe this is not a structural loaded part, and only vibrations from the engine cause stress on the weld. Another concern is the exhaust pipe which is only a inch away from the hole. Would the heat cause the brazed joint to deteriorate?

I found a picture on the internet displaying the oil case. The hole in in the lower right corner of the oil sump.
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Looking forward for some advice. And thanks in advance.

Regards
Thomas
 

Grub54891

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Re: Hole in oil case. Brazing or Welding to fix it?

A pic of the damage on yours would help us make a decision. But a good welding shop should be able to repair it. And yes replace all gaskets/seals/o-rings!
 

Georgesalmon

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Re: Hole in oil case. Brazing or Welding to fix it?

I'd take it somewhere and have it TIG'd. Again of course replace all the gaskets, O rings, etc. is the way to go.
 

Brown Trout

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Re: Hole in oil case. Brazing or Welding to fix it?

I took some pictures:
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I think it illustrates the problem. The compartment is occupied by the exhaust pipe which is connected to a plate with rubber gasket. Maybe the drain holes were clogged and water was stored, causing corrosion. I would guess it lacks about 5 mm of aluminium.

Photo number two shows the inside of the oil sump.
 
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