Help with ignition timing 1979 Envinrude 20hp

a05vma2

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Hi,<br /><br />Last fall I was working on a 1979 20hp Envinrude engine given to me.<br />I had backfiring problem thru the exhaust after having replaced the thermostat and head cover due to a blown "helicoil" resulting from the engine overheating. <br /><br />Here is what I did last fall:<br /><br />Checked for the correct spark plugs and/or cracked insulator. - Okay<br />Checked to ensure the spark plug wires were not crossed. - Okay<br />Checked for broken flywheel key - Okay<br /><br />Last weekend I was looking at it again after sitting all winter and while checking at the spark advance and ignition timing I discovered that there were 2 sets of timing marks on the flywheel. One for the electric start and the other for pull rope. Turns out that the timing was set at 34 degree TDC on the electric timing marks side. This engine is a pull rope. The TM for pull rope side is now almost at 0 TDC when the other side is at 34. There is a timig screw that allows me 1 degree per full clockwise turn but there is not enough screw lenght to do 34 turns.<br /><br />I understand that this engine is CD ignition and does not require timing adjustment. The problem is that it will not start just backfire through the exhaust.<br /><br />The question is how do I get the proper ignition timing marks to align at the pull rope TM side to 34 degree mark? <br /><br />Or is it that the plate is off and requires realignment.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Veronica
 

G DANE

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Re: Help with ignition timing 1979 Envinrude 20hp

Veronica<br /><br />On the rope start model, ignition timing is displayed at the arrow mark on the rope start assy. On the electric start it is visible in line with the marker at the starter bracket. Thats the reason there are two scales. Bed aware if the ignition coils have swapped place, the spark plug leads will look like they are in right place, but the two small wires from the powerpack to the coils will be crossed. That will create exactly the situation you discriped with a huge BANG. Try swapping them, against you faith and see.
 

a05vma2

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Re: Help with ignition timing 1979 Envinrude 20hp

Hi G Dane,<br /><br />Yes that is the first thing I tried, checked the spark plug wires. Tried to start with them inverted. Nothing. The CD side TM lines up at about 8 degrees. The timing srew is not long enough to turn it 28 full turns to advance at 34 degree mark.<br /><br />What else I am at lost!<br /><br />Thanks for your responses.
 

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Re: Help with ignition timing 1979 Envinrude 20hp

Now - I dont remember your old thread, but check the timing as follows: <br /><br />Remove both sparkplugs from threads, leave them attached to plug wires, threads grounded = sparking in open air. ( no ground can kill pack )<br />You dont want motor to start!<br /><br />Hook up your timing light at #1 plugwire. <br />Advance throttle to wot.<br />Pull start rope. Spark advance should now be 30 BTD at crancking speed, as running 5000-6000 RPM will make system advance spark 4 deg extra, that is if 34 deg is correct setting (no manual here now )
 

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Re: Help with ignition timing 1979 Envinrude 20hp

Thanks G Dane. I will give it a try.
 
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