Help needed to identify the boat

[ozenine]

Hi Guys,
I founf this on kijiji and thinking about getting it:
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-powerboats-motorboats-16-STARCRAFT-ALUMINUM-75HP-EVENRUDE-NO-EMAIL-W0QQAdIdZ173489875

I would like to know which year is it..... i mean boat and motor.
Also, what is the deal with this half windshield.... looks very wierd.
And is you tell me your general opinion on this deal it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Oleg

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Oleg, welcome to iboats- I'd say the V4 Evinrude 75hp is around 76-80 and that is a Starcraft Supersport or SS and probably 70-74 for the year(I have a '79 SS)

Someone else will be able to narrow down the year more accurately for the outboard, the boat is a real ballpark since those hulls really didn't change much from year to year. The HIN will tell you if you get it off the hull.

The windshield would've been full and flip-open for a walk-thru bow from the factory, in this case you are lacking some hardware it seems.

Great deal at $800 even better considering the exchange rate

I admit a bias towards starcrafts, aluminum and OMC outboards, and I say you should buy it

 

[ozenine]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Thanks for your reply Angler!
I was looking for Starcrafts for some time and was hoping to find open bow (to get more people capacity). Is walk through bow differ from open bow? I am planning to redo the interior anyways, so I am wondering if i can make it open bow with V seat in the bow? Or is it designed to be like the one on the brochure in your 1979 SS post (I like the configuration of yours 79 SS)?

Does "missing hardware" mean that it had similar windshield at another side as well?

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Thanks for your reply Angler!
I was looking for Starcrafts for some time and was hoping to find open bow (to get more people capacity). Is walk through bow differ from open bow? I am planning to redo the interior anyways, so I am wondering if i can make it open bow with V seat in the bow? Or is it designed to be like the one on the brochure in your 1979 SS post (I like the configuration of yours 79 SS)?

Does "missing hardware" mean that it had similar windshield at another side as well?

Starcraft has made fine aluminum hulls for a long time and I had been looking for about 2 years before finding the perfect one so I hear ya there

"Walk-thru" and "open bow" are in fact the same concept and it looks like you're missing the port console(can be fabricated from aluminum) and the port windshield which includes the flip-open section.

It is the same boat as mine, as well as ezmobee's and a host of others. Mine is 16', most commonly found is the 18', most rare is the coveted 22' SS.

It looks like you've got a platform that's been added to the bow, is that right? If so it can be removed and you could restore the original seating. I plan on doing just that myself.

Nice find and good luck

 

[ozenine]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

I am not sure about bow platform. Looks like it covers all to the sides of the hull, so I am hoping that it was added on top of the original configuration - I am not that strong with aluminum fabrication . I have not seen it and will probably not see it untill weekend (going on business trip ), given that it is available. I alos noticed secong motor on the back, I guess it does not come with it....... but worth asking.
Odeally I wanted to add couple seats in the front since on very rare ocasions we may have up to 6 people in the boat (but mostly 2-3).
Also what do you think about 70 hp evenrude. Is that a decent motor, is it strong enought? (I might concidering pulling a skier)
Thanks a lot for the answers

 

[JimbC]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

I wouldn't pay more than $200 to $300 and that depends on the shape of the motor. You can find Starcrafts in better shape than that one. That bow area/windshield stuff looks like another one of those do it yourself whatchamacallit transitions from one style to another. Just my opinion

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Well after looking at the photos again after reading your reply it seems like it may actually be a 16' Jupiter with a closed bow, but that windshield is like the ones on a supersport. Hard to say for sure. More pictures will tell us.

I'll let Rick and Ezmobee tell ya since they have Jupiters

 

[ozenine]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Just curious, where was SS in the lineup of starcraft back then, was it low end, medium or more high end boat. Same question applies to Jupiter. I tried searching the web but do not seem to be able to find that info....
Thanks

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

I believe that boat is a bastardized Jupiter. However I don't think it would take much to make it right again. You could find a windshield that will fit without too much difficulty (check the Jupiter link in my signature below). That is a 3 cylinder Evinrude and they are one of the best motors made. Fantastic horsepower to weight ratio. It's actually the perfect motor for a 16' Starcraft in my opinion. If that motor is, in fact, rebuilt (no receipts means no rebuild) that package is well worth the $800. I sold my Jupiter a few months ago for $2100.

As for your lineup question...I don't think any of the SC's were any better built than the others. Just different configurations.

 

[Bob Gilvary]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

You couldn't hardly buy a rebuilt 70 hp for the 800.00 asking price.

Check it out for the water cooling upgrade. It should now have the water tell tale rubber tube positioned at the top of the engine, port side rear. They used to be at the bottom of the engine, port side rear, and it caused over heat problems as the water pumps wore.

To eliminate surprises, do a compression check on that engine. The numbers should be within 10# of each other.

 

[ozenine]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Thanks for all your replies.

If that motor is, in fact, rebuilt (no receipts means no rebuild)

I was told it was rebuilt "recently". When i asked if it was done this year I was told that it was done around 5 years ago. There goes "recentlly" . Moreover, we have frost already, so there is no chance of starting it. So my assumption is that it does not run.
Ok, so here is the deal:
1) "Basterdized Jupiter" with some kind of "whatchamacallit transitions from one style to another" that
2) Needs total redo of the interior (including transom and floors).
3) New seats are the must before even putting it on the water
4) Engine does not run and requers a second rebuilt (is it even possible?)
5) Traler needs work, I assume

So here is 60 dollar question: Would you pay 800 dollars for it???

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Why can't you start the motor? You don't really have to do much (if anything) to "winterize" an outboard. I'd think you could at least do a compression test on it. If it has good compression, pretty much everything else can be fixed.

But why pay $800 when you could surely get it for $400

 

[ozenine]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

But why pay $800 when you could surely get it for $400

I was going to offer him 300-400 for it. My thinking is "if it is worth 800 then it is worth 400 for sure" .
It is below zero here and water freezes, so if we will start it on muffs then the water may freeze inside of the pump before we can drain it. Or am I wrong here?
I am shamefull to admit that I have never done the compression test, do not know how to do that and do not have a tool :redface::redface::redface:

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

If you can get it for $400 then I wouldn't bother with any tests. I didn't bother with my boat either as I got it cheap enough to not care. I'll admit I haven't done a compression test either. However I understand it's quite easy. The testers are cheap and screw in place of a spark plug. You take all the plugs out and screw the tester into each hole and crank the motor over with the starter for a few secs. The actual reading isn't so important (the gauges are apparently pretty inaccurate) but that all 3 cyl are within 10% of each other.

Water drains completely from outboards if they are tilted down. Unless it is REALLY REALLY cold, I wouldn't hesitate to try to start it on muffs.

 

[ozenine]

Re: Help needed to identify the boat

Thanks EZ,
I will go and take a look at it this weekend. I found how to do the compression test - seems very easy. and tool is 25 bucks.