Has anyone noticed gas....

JustJason

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Prices at Exxon/mobils?
Here in Northern MA/southern NH I just payed 3.539 a gallon at a cumberland farms. When I drive around I notice Gulf, sunoco, lukoil, and others are all around 3.51-3.53ish. Every exxon mobil i see (and i noticed it 2 weeks ago so i keep an eye out) is 3.59-3.62ish. Why is that? Are they TRYING to drive the price up higher. Are they thinking to themselves, if we are just 5 or 6 cents higher a gallon then people will still fill up here, other stations will take notice and raise their prices, in which case we (exxon) will go a few cents higher?
Look around where you live and see if exxon/mobile is consitantly higher than everywhere else. I bet it is.
We need to talk to Chavez and find out how taking oil over in his country worked out. The way i see it... this country is a democracy, and i believe the majority of the people want lower prices. So why don't we do something about it?
We can
A. Take over oil companies and all gas stations in the US by some sort of "National interest" or "eminant domain" policy.
B. Take over all gas stations, and the country, as a country buys from oil companies in bulk to help lower prices.

I understand that the price of oil will go up, its part of inflation. But I believe that it has gone up disporportionally to everything esle. And everything else is effected by it. And nobody is doing anything about it and It sucks. Very few make huge profits on the backs of the majority.

Gas in Venezuala is .12 cents a gallon right now.
Wonder if i can buy some of that... the shipping cant be that bad.

1. How high is to high before we have the "Boston Gas Party" and start burning down gas stations in protest?
2. How high is to high before you care?

Please feel free to answer those 2 questions... Lets try to keep this one from getting locked.
And has anybody noticed the price consitincies at exxons?
 

oddjob

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

Wow...I find your comments very un-American and it offends me. I would advise you of what to do to lower fuel prices but it would probably offend you or the rules of this forum. Tell Chavez he offends me when you see him.
 

tommays

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

While i do NOT like the price it seems to be the only thing that will WAKE us up to the long term problems we face;)
 

samm835

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Well buying the actual gas station isn't going to do you any good. Because then you are going to be the one that everyone wants to complain to. Incase most don't know, most gas station are bought/built by business owners...maybe your neightbors. I used to own 3, 8 years ago, mine didn't have a huge profit margin. I only bought them as a secondary business, and sold them after 5 years for a minimal profit. I will say here in the south (where I live) most of the Exxons around me are private owned, these guys don't get discounts on gas, mostly only the corporate owned ones get better gas breaks...so when you get the break it is usually passed on to the public. I think BP works the same way as pricing for the corporate owned and private owned. So buying the gas stations....isn't the way to go, you need to start talking to the goverment and have them start putting price limits on what can be charged.....but then if you do that then all you do is open a whole other book of worms. It sucks trust me, I have a 07 F150 4X4 crew cab 5.7 litre, and also a Ford Expedition 5.7 4X4. Gas hurts me, but I also have 5 kids, so getting a small SUV isn't going to happen if I ever plan on going out to eat as a family.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

The prices you are paying are "anticipation prices" for the next load of gas delivered.

The prices are getting to all of us at the same time. Gas in VT is 3.64 for E10 because they are not allowed to sell real straight gas here anymore!! :mad: so... we pay the higher price. However, last night I drove back from NY and saw prices at 3.74 (and 4.78 for diesel). It's going to get worse before it gets better. We are headed right up and over past 4.00 on Memorial Day weekend.
 

JustJason

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

oddjob said:
Wow...I find your comments very un-American and it offends me. I would advise you of what to do to lower fuel prices but it would probably offend you or the rules of this forum. Tell Chavez he offends me when you see him.

I don't understant what was un-american. Can you define for me what being "american" actually is? is it un-american to want lower fuel prices?
If i have to offend you or anyone else to get cheaper gas i'll do it all day long.
 

samm835

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CaptJason, I think he might have been refering to your comment about "chavez". I might be mistaking, but I think that might be what he was talking about.
 

JB

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Well, around here Exxon-Mobil tend to be priced a couple cents below other major retailers and a few cents above discount dealers.

I sure do wish some of these screeching conspiracy theorists could run a service station for a few days, or even a refinery.

I have an idea, though. Everyone who thinks that gas/oil prices can be controlled by the major oil companies (without going broke), the Federal government, Mom & Pop gas stations or the neighborhood loudmouth. . . just shut up. Oh, and people who think 17 billion bux is too much profit to make with a half trillion dollar investment, too.

The reduction in the CO2 exhaled would end global warming.
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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before noon it was 3.54 shortly afterwards "All" the stations in this area went to 3.80. Our enemies have been doing their best to destroy our economy. The 2 times on the WTC slowed things, but didn't destroy it. I think they found another way. That is my own opinion
 

External Combustion

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I believe that the "un-American" comment was about taking someone elses property because you don't like the way they handle it.

Self edited comment. Too close to political discussion. Thanks Moderators!
 

Bigprairie1

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

Guys, its going to get worse.....a lot worse so hang on. As a commodity it doesn't have much, if anything, to do with local gas stations, local pressure or national government, etc. Its international supply and demand and unless you own the ground, the oilfield and all the mineral rights you don't have much say in the matter unfortunately.
I read that for every North American (Canadian/American) parking their car there is at least one person in China buying their first car, filling it up and hitting the road. You guys still have a relatively low fuel cost so no fretting. As I write this gas just hit $5/gallon in Canada....now that sucks.
Hang in there, enjoy it while you can.
BP:)
 

Mark42

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

Time to start drilling in Alaska, and to start building new refineries. Until we do, we are at the mercy of OPEC.
 

Bigprairie1

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Time to start drilling in Alaska, and to start building new refineries. Until we do, we are at the mercy of OPEC.

Mark is this a thorny issue on the U.S side? Does it get resistance from the environmental angle?
We have a similar issue in B.C with respect to offshore drilling opportunities and the people opposed to it for environmental reasons.
I say go for it. In my opinion, it brings great opportunities with it. Newfoundland (East Coast) has been investing in offshore drilling for a few years now and its starting to pay back in a big way for many, many people and the entire economy there.
My two bits.
BP:)
 

heycods

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

What burns my bootie is paying 11 cents a gallon more in my hometown when you can drive to the next town east and get it 11 cents cheaper (8 miles) Same brand convience store and same delivery truck, the Difference is that thats the only fuel stop in my home town. I was in abilene (60 miles North today) gas was $3.459 a gallon at home town station its $3.619! yes I filled up!
 

jay_merrill

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As I write this gas just hit $5/gallon in Canada....now that sucks.

It's five bucks a gallon in Canada because of taxes, not the price of the product. The same is true of the high prices in Europe, the UK and Ireland. Those folks make their own choices in regard to what they allow their politicians to do, so they need to live with it and stop with all the "you guys have it good comments."
 

SgtMaj

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What burns my bootie is paying 11 cents a gallon more in my hometown when you can drive to the next town east and get it 11 cents cheaper (8 miles) Same brand convience store and same delivery truck, the Difference is that thats the only fuel stop in my home town. I was in abilene (60 miles North today) gas was $3.459 a gallon at home town station its $3.619! yes I filled up!

If one gas station has a pipeline and the other requires it to be trucked in, that would make up that difference. Just a thought.
 

arboldt

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Years ago we referred to "major brand" vs. "cut-rate" or "discount" gas stations. That's still true, to some extent.

A few blocks from my home is a Shell station. It's always 3c - 6c more than other stations. Some people continue to buy their gas there, I don't.

There's another regional chain in the upper Midwest, generally a couple cents less than the major brands. A friend used to be a district manager for them (now disability-retired). They were told they would always be the first to raise prices and the last to lower them.

There's another regional chain that is usually the first to lower and the last to raise. They get my business.

For decades, oil companies used subregions / zones / districts to set pricing. The small town where my wife grew up always had higher gas prices than another small town 10 miles away -- hers was in the Cadillac (MI) zone, the other was in the Grand Rapids zone. And the metro Grand Rapids stores are usually more expensive than Holland or Ludington (Lake Michigan shore). How companies set their pricing structure doesn't have to make sense.

Unrelated to fuel prices, I remember 15 - 20 years ago we rented a U-Haul one-way from my wife's home town (Reed City, MI) to Ft Wayne IN, where we lived at the time. There's no dealer in Reed City. The closest (10 miles south) was in Big Rapids, in their Grand Rapids district. The next was Cadillac (30 miles north), in their Gaylord district. Going a little farther doubled the mileage and time allotment. If we'd gotten from the closer dealer, we would have had to pay a lot more for time and miles over what was allotted. By going a little further, we were well under the allotted. Oh, yes -- either place was the same price! Make sense? Who says it had to?
 

rolmops

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

Well, around here Exxon-Mobil tend to be priced a couple cents below other major retailers and a few cents above discount dealers.

I sure do wish some of these screeching conspiracy theorists could run a service station for a few days, or even a refinery.

I have an idea, though. Everyone who thinks that gas/oil prices can be controlled by the major oil companies (without going broke), the Federal government, Mom & Pop gas stations or the neighborhood loudmouth. . . just shut up. Oh, and people who think 17 billion bux is too much profit to make with a half trillion dollar investment, too.

The reduction in the CO2 exhaled would end global warming.

Wow ,JB.
I think that this is the first time you actually admit that global warming is caused by the human race
 

Benny1963

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Re: Has anyone noticed gas....

man gas prices are small on the world worry list .
i wish there was something that the public could do without breaking the law /hurting someone or overthrowing the government .but im afraid there
is little the can be done , it will change for better or worse ,probaly the later
but im hope full
gas in louisiana is 3,39 for 9/10 of a gallon
bennyb
 
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