gvwr

[ahmincha]

I have a question I have a cargo trailer with a 7000lg gross vehicle rating so I understand that total includes trailer and everything I put in it. My question is should I deduct the 4 tires being as how they are not on the suspension side of the trailer.Trailer set ontop of the tires. Now I know I have to count them for the tow vehicle just not sure if i need to count them in trailer rate

 

[Bondo]

Re: gvwr

I have a question I have a cargo trailer with a 7000lg gross vehicle rating so I understand that total includes trailer and everything I put in it. My question is should I deduct the 4 tires being as how they are not on the suspension side of the trailer.Trailer set ontop of the tires. Now I know I have to count them for the tow vehicle just not sure if i need to count them in trailer rate

Ayuh,.... Gross vehicle weight is the Total combined weight,...

Wheels, tires, 'n Everything,....

 

[smokeonthewater]

Re: gvwr

What Bondo said.... Gross is gross.... Don't deduct anything.

In fact tongue weight is also included....

 

[ahmincha]

Re: gvwr

I understand for towing purposes gross is gross what I am saying is as far as total weight on suspension of trailer the tires are not on the trailer suspension because the trailer sets on top of them. not talking about tow rig

 

[GA_Boater]

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Try to explain this if you have to go through a weigh station or meet the guy with the portable scales in the trunk. "Just a minute, let me take the tires off for an accurate weight" You may be signing your autograph.

 

[Bondo]

Re: gvwr

I understand for towing purposes gross is gross what I am saying is as far as total weight on suspension of trailer the tires are not on the trailer suspension because the trailer sets on top of them. not talking about tow rig

Ayuh,.... Whether it's sprung weight or unsprung weight, it's still part of the Gross weight,...

 

[T_Herrod]

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When the DOT cops pull a semi over and weigh it the count tires, wheels and what ever mud or other crap may be stuck to it. Are you just trying to figure how much weight you can put in the trailer? Just don't exceed the max weight on the trailers data plate.

 

[ahmincha]

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Thanks everyone for the replies I get what is legal and what actual weight

 

[Frank Acampora]

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The only time unsprung weight is counted is figuring suspension and how an (auto) will handle. The less unsprung weight the better. That is one of the reasons why a corvette has the rear pumpkin mounted to the frame and independent axles going to each rear wheel. It reduces unsprung weight.

For trailer purposes, the tow vehicle does not care about unsprung weight. It only cares about how much total weight (like Bondo said) it is pulling.

 

[H20Rat]

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Try to explain this if you have to go through a weigh station or meet the guy with the portable scales in the trunk. "Just a minute, let me take the tires off for an accurate weight" You may be signing your autograph.

Lets be honest, neither of which will happen to an individual pulling a boat for personal use! LEGALLY, there are no laws preventing an individual from overloading past the GVWR, if they are not towing commercially and aren't exceeding their class D private license (26000 pounds)

 

[lrak]

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Just don't exceed the max weight on the trailers data plate.

Actually. I'd suggest don't exceed the max weight on your registration. That is what counts legally and it could be lower or higher than the data plate. In some states it is also illegal to exceed tire capacity. I consider that one a safety issue and wouldn't do it even if you don't live in one of the few states that has a law against it.

 

[ahmincha]

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This had nothing to do with the tow rig I was just thinking theoretically tires and wheels are not on suspension side of a trailer

 

[smokeonthewater]

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This had nothing to do with the tow rig I was just thinking theoretically tires and wheels are not on suspension side of a trailer

Doesn't matter.. When the manufacturer figured gvwr of the trailer they knew it would have tires n wheels on it and counted them in the total.....


honestly if you are soo tight that you have to try to rationalize a few lbs by subtracting a couple tires, you probably need a heavier trailer.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: gvwr

Lets be honest, neither of which will happen to an individual pulling a boat for personal use! LEGALLY, there are no laws preventing an individual from overloading past the GVWR, if they are not towing commercially and aren't exceeding their class D private license (26000 pounds)

I know that. But it fits the theme of this thread.