GPS and a Guide

[txswinner]

I understand that guides have their honey holes and wonder if after hiring a guide one would be out of line to use a personal gps to mark spots fished for future use. Is this something that is unacceptable, just do not want to make a total fool of myself but going to a new lake to me for a week and would like insite for one or two days then fish my own boat.

 

[LubeDude]

Re: GPS and a Guide

It wouldnt bother me.

 

[DJ]

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Yes, IMHO it is out of line. It's called-THEFT.<br /><br />That guy probably spent years finding what/where works. Because of some electronic gizmo, you can steal that? One would argue that the lake is public property. Yes, it is, however, knowledge is not-YET!<br /><br />That's the way we live today, hardwork/experience is "throw away". Open for the taking.

 

[txswinner]

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Wow! Two opposites. Theft is a pretty strong word DJ, if it was permissable I would have considered it a purchase of information of knowledge which occurs everyday. I lecture at many seminars (60 per year) and those people get my information and knowledge from hardwork/experience for a fee. I thought perhaps this situation would be the same.

 

[txswinner]

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DJ, Guess what I meant to ask was "Am I paying for the knowledge of where to fish." I will certainly ask before I do it.

 

[JB]

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I have waypointed spots that my guide took me to, but only after I asked his permission.<br /><br />On some lakes/rivers/saltwater exact locations are easy enough to go back to without GPS, but on others a particular location is like the Lost Dutchman.<br /><br />Always ask. If (s)he says please don't, then don't.

 

[Rockchalk]

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I know in the saltwater fishery this is a very hot topic. I have seen charter operations that had signs saying NO GPS ALLOWED. Have heard “stories” of captains throwing GPS’s in the water that came unknowingly on their boat. A honey hole is worth a lot to guide. I don’t suspect too many are going to take kindly to you trying to pinpoint it with a GPS. Just my observation.

 

[jtexas]

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I'd be embarrassed to ask, I assume it's a no-no. But I'd be surprised if a guide was offended at the question. But I wouldn't be surprised if he gets offended by you marking spots without permission.<br /><br />But, I wouldn't hesitate to look for spots the guide took me to if I could find 'em by dead reckoning.<br /><br />Try this, take a loaf of bread, and and drop a few crumbs every few feet...sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[DJ]

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txswinner,<br /><br />Yes, theft is a strong word. The whole premise of this is the word "PERMISSION".<br /><br />You offer your knowledge free, that is your choice. I applaud you for it. You may be offering your knowledge as a marketing advantage, or out of the goodness of your heart. It doesn't matter. It was/is your choice as the OWNER of that knowledge.<br /><br />The same rule applies, in my book, when it comes to guides.

 

[txswinner]

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DJ, If I am hungry for fish I go to the fish market, I hire a guide for use of his knowledge, lures to use, how to work them, what depths and how to find fish. All a guide has to sell is a good time and his knowledge, that is his service. I was offended by your theft usage but certainly your privilege to be so abrupt, but be careful if you come to Texas, calling someone a theif here will get your >>> whipped.

 

[DJ]

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txswinner,<br /><br />Abruptness is the way I communicate my opinions. Time is a factor.<br /><br />I am not afraid to show my face in Texas. I can more than defend my words and myself. I think the folks in Texas are wonderful people with good solid values.<br /><br />As mentioned, the key word is: PERMISSION.<br /><br />No fights wanted, just my opinion.<br /><br />I stand by, what I said.

 

[LubeDude]

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Ive thought it over a little more now. The Lakes that I guide on are not big enough, and are natural lakes without places off shore to mark. I think it would be a nice gensture to ask first though.

 

[txswinner]

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lubedude, I would not consider doing without permission, just wanted to know if it was out of line to ask or would the guide think I was a jerk or crazy, that's all. If I wanted to "steal" the hole I would just follow the guide and pull up close enough to get reading. Not my purpose at all.

 

[Rockchalk]

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My guess is that if you ask and they allow you to bring a GPS and mark spots you will not be taken to very good spots. No guide is going to take you to their honey holes if there is a likely chance they will see you there the next day.

 

[roscoe]

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When you get to one of his locations that produce, mark a small "x" on the side of the boat.

 

[txswinner]

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Thanks Roscoe, but tried that and it did not work because I could not remember which side of the boat I marked. Gotta love that fishin'

 

[txswinner]

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Hey roscoe, tried to get my mother-in-law to get in the water and stay til I came back the following week but that did not work either!!! Scared off all the fish.

 

[miloman]

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If a gps comes on my boat, especially whenmusky fishing, if Im not asked I will politly tell the client no gps allowed, if Im asked Im more then happy to allow it, its all about some respect.<br /><br />I had some clients out last week who wanted some musky after they had asked if it was ok I said sure, but after some time I was asked if I could help him mark other locations on the lake from my unit and I politely declined it.

 

[txswinner]

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I would never use the gps without asking

 

[txswinner]

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Sounds like I can ask the guide for permission to mark with my gps and will not appear to be a complete jerk or idiot. Might not get to fish the really good spots. I understand how that could happen. I was taught as a kid to fish with a guide if possible for one or two days on any lake that is new to me. I use guides often.