getting started trolling

mntboy

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I have a 14ft flat bottom with a 35hp on it. I am wanting to get started trolling for lake trout and walleye. A freind of mine who goes fishin with me all the time has a 4 hp motor that i'm going to mount along side of my 35 to troll with. What equipment do i need to get started trolling.
 

RicMic

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Re: getting started trolling

GOOD rod holders and organize your boat so that everything you need, you can reach from where you are steering the motor, net, pliers, tacklebox, etc..
 

Mark_VTfisherman

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This is an older thread with a lot of good info

So isn't this one...

Equipment is great, but before you have rods, etc., these are your priorities:

- 480pixel Sonar
- Way of knowing your speed
- way of controlling your speed (kicker, trolling plate, bags)
- way of controlling your depth

Lure selection, tackle, everything else follows the above unless you merely want to depend on luck and chance to catch fish. Most people give up trolling because they are fishing not where the fish are, not at the right depth, not at the right speed.

I don't even switch up lures or try different colors until I start marking fish at the depth I am fishing, or adjust the depth I am fishing to where I am marking fish.

The above links are a nice little primer to succesfully catching fishby trolling.

GPS with Navionics is a nice thing to add once you get the other equip. At the very least, a paper chart will show you where you should fish and how you should navigate.

Mark
 

HopeSheFloats

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The style of trolling will give you help on choosing...down-rigger trolling, planer boards, in line planer, diver disk etc...I like matching rods with counter reels, though I don't have any on my tub{I use them on a friends rig ;)}
Then there's the accessories like releases, weights, flag set-ups. terminals, the list can go on & on. For the type I do, in-line planer boards are fine, but I mainly troll for walleye & muskie{once in a while}.

Rod strength is another consideration, and as mentioned already... the rod holders, their placements, and how many. Have fun :D
 

mntboy

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I am wanting to catch walleye. I was only going to use 2 rods and was kind of wanting to try this method out before i spent alot of money on something that i'm not sure i can figure out. I live in the mountains of n.c and noone around here really trys this method. Me and a freind think it would work well but neither of us knows anything about this method.
 

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I don't have a lot of Walleye experience, but for trout, Kokanee, and Salmon, the trick is to play with it and go with what works.
Set up the rods with the same lure you usually cast at different depths, one shallow and one deep. When you are letting line out, make sure you are going just fast enough to give the lure the proper action. Troll around points and structure for twenty minutes. If nothing hits, either increase your speed, adjust depths, or change lures. Once you figure out something that works, do it hard.

Start as slow as possible!
 

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I troll a lot and the only things I "need" are:

- rod holders
- fishfinder
- trolling motor (electric or gas kicker)
- rod/reel suitable for your presentation

Plastic (composite) rod holders are fine for small fish, but I've busted them off on 20#+ fish, I have metal rod holders. You don't "need" a fancy fish finder, just something that shows depth and fish arches. I prefer an electric trolling motor as it's easier to operate, instant on-off, instant forward-reverse,,, but a gas kicker can go a lot further without the added weight of heavy batteries.
 

RicMic

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I am wanting to catch walleye. I was only going to use 2 rods and was kind of wanting to try this method out before i spent alot of money on something that i'm not sure i can figure out. I live in the mountains of n.c and noone around here really trys this method. Me and a freind think it would work well but neither of us knows anything about this method.

Yeah, you really don't need much gear for that, it does depend on what body of water you are fishing, walleye are cold water fish, so in many places are pretty deep this time of year. Walleyes like to be near the bottom or just above whatever is on the bottom. Our standard rig was a 3' leader tied to a three way swivel 18" up from the sinker. A night crawler harness, a spinner or a wobbling lure usually with a small piece of worm on it.
 

HopeSheFloats

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Yeah, you really don't need much gear for that...

^^^Agreed... I use those cheapo yellow bird in-line boards, drop a crawler harness with some weight attached off each side and let the boards carry them out to the sides, then using other rods, drop some bottom bouncers off the sides, using harnesses again, & hand holding the rods...Michigan just upped the rod limits to three per person, so looks like I need to add some rod holders :D

Vary your speed/color and depth till they tell you want they want ;)
 

Mark_VTfisherman

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Yeah, you really don't need much gear for that, it does depend on what body of water you are fishing, walleye are cold water fish, so in many places are pretty deep this time of year. Walleyes like to be near the bottom or just above whatever is on the bottom. Our standard rig was a 3' leader tied to a three way swivel 18" up from the sinker. A night crawler harness, a spinner or a wobbling lure usually with a small piece of worm on it.

Agreed. Probably high chance of success to do the bottom bouncer routine with a crawler harness- three foot lead with two floats.

Walleye are probably best described as "cool water" not cold water, but you can catch them anywhere the water is in the "ideal" range of 60 to 75 degrees. The depth you find that temp range is the depth you run a Rapala or whatever on your second rod. Some days in later season you will find that a crank or pug will out produce the crawler.

Lead-core line: this is fairly cheap to get going with. Ten colors of lead on a line-counter reel and a rod can be had for under $100. This will let you run plugs or spoons at a depth where the fish are at. Basically plan on 4' to 6' per color depending on speed. I.E. four colors (120 feet of line) will run about 20' down (@ 5' per color.)

Big Jon Diver Disks or Walker Deeper Divers are another dependable way to get in the right depth range. The Big Jon mini diver disks work very well for me- they will let you run a plug or spoon as deep as 20' to cover that depth, and will plane off to the side away from the boat as well as down. This with a Rapala or crawler harness has saved the day several times. AND the best part is that they cost only $6 to $8 each.

Good luck! Let us know how you did. Try 1.2MPH on up to 2.4MPH. Depending on water temps, at around 79-80 surface temps 1.8 is not too fast. But sometimes it is!

Another method is jigs- drifting in low to zero winds with a jig and curly-tail grub with a half crawler or a minnow can work. Some use Gulp succesfully too. Run a yellow or green jig with a yellow or green plastic tail- find the bottom, let it set for a second, then lift up about six inches and hold for 3-4 seconds, then drop back to bottom. Rinse and repeat.

Hope this helps.
 

mntboy

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what about the dipsy divers, could you not just use the one that will dive to 90 feet and just not let out as much line to allow it to not go as deep or do i need to get the different models for different depths? What are ya'll talking about when you say bottom bouncers?
 

Mark_VTfisherman

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what about the dipsy divers, could you not just use the one that will dive to 90 feet and just not let out as much line to allow it to not go as deep or do i need to get the different models for different depths? What are ya'll talking about when you say bottom bouncers?

Divers won't generally run to 90 feet. The resistance to the line in the water creates a point of diminishing returns, and you will need about a mile of line out.

Divers can run you to 40' which is more than enough for most walleye situations. Besides, catch-and-release observations demonstrate that most fish taken from deeper water do not survive after their release. That seems a little counterproductive to kill fish you can't be sure you can keep.

Bottom bouncer is a weighted sinker device which holds bait or lures slightly off the bottom. That video link posted earlier is a good one. But again, you will likely be running 15-25-feet down, not 90.

Mark
 
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