general fuel question

jdstephwacotx

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Once a motor idles....if you continue to pump the bulb (assuming the bulb and lines are in good working order) should the motor flood and die?<br /><br />I'm trying to think of ways to trouble shoot everything between the tank and the carbs and I have no experience.<br /><br />Other suggestions welcome.<br /><br />Also, when the cover and wrap is off and I can see into the tops of the 2 carbs (inline 4 outboard) should I see fuel spraying into the carbs when I pump the bulb (motor off now)? I definitely should if I rock the throttle between forward and neutral right?
 

Terry H

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Re: general fuel question

inline 4 huh? Prolly not a j/E problem. What's the problem, someone here can surely let you know how to troubleshoot. No, you shouldn't be able to flood the motor from the primer bulb if the carbs is working properly, and no fuel should spray outside the carbs at any time nomatta what...and last but not least, what motor are you working on, model # and brand...
 

jdstephwacotx

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Re: general fuel question

Not outside the carbs. I meant when I'm looking into the carbs with the motor off. What can I do to see if fuel is spraying into the carbs as it should?<br /><br />76 Merc 85HP <br /><br />What sort of symptoms should I have if I'm getting air in my fuel lines from a bad bulb or connections?<br /><br />It idles fine but quits when I put it in gear.
 

Bradster941

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Re: general fuel question

No.<br />Pumping the bulb will fill up the bowls of the carbs..<br />Once full, the needle and seat will close and the bulb will get firm.<br />As stated above, pumping the bulb should never result in fuel spraying through the carbs.<br /><br />To answer your last question;<br />If your fuel system is sucking air, your motor will stall.<br /><br />"Also, when the cover and wrap is off and I can see into the tops of the 2 carbs (inline 4 outboard) should I see fuel spraying into the carbs when I pump the bulb (motor off now)? I definitely should if I rock the throttle between forward and neutral right? "<br /><br />Again no. These carbs do not have an accelerator pump like a car carb..<br /><br />Perhaps if you posted what engine and problems you are having, help would be easier to obtain.
 

WillyBWright

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Re: general fuel question

Actually, I'm afraid I have to disagree with that. The old inline carbs have very wimpy float valves. It's actually not at all hard to overcome them with a decent primer bulb. In fact with the motors that are pretty worn out, that's about the only way you can start them. For every other motor I can think of, you shouldn't be able to overcome the float with the primer bulb.<br /><br />If you have a timing light, you can flash the inside of the carb throat and see a pretty obvious stream of gas shooting out the tube in the lower middle of the carb when the motor is running. You should see the vast majority of it going in towards the motor. Some will also spit back, but the amount should be very small. If it were significant, that would mean a bad reed.<br /><br />The problem you are describing is common with inline Mercs with a lot of hours on them. The reed blocks inside the motor wear and leak between cylinders making any attempt to run them in the water difficult. They can run great on muffs all day long, but as soon as you get some exhaust back pressure, they fall apart. Unfortunately the only cure is an overhaul. But don't assume that that is the problem. It could be a few other things as well. You'll want to repost under the Mercury heading, but I'll bet a moderator will be around to move you anyhow. In fact I'll alert them.
 

jdstephwacotx

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Re: general fuel question

Don't worry Willy I've already started a more specific thread over there. I like asking my general questions over here. You guys are great.........and quick!<br /><br /><br />I took some things apart just now and I'm beginning to wonder if it is my fuel pump. Would a bad fuel pump allow the motor to idle and even rev with the fast idle lever but die in gear?
 

Solittle

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Re: general fuel question

Troubleshooting is best done in a methodical step by step manner. Seems you are wondering if it is this or that and posting here and there. Suggest you get a Merc manual and confine your posts to the Merc section. Those folks know Mercs.
 

JB

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Re: general fuel question

This belongs in Merc Troubles.
 
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