Forgot about the tide

rpsloan

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It's been a few years since I pulled this bonehead move. Some friends and I decided to take and have a party at South Shores in Mission Bay, San Diego, CA. I brought the boat so we could fish and cruise. Later in the afternoon I beached the boat so I could grill some burgers and brats. We were having a pretty good time and not really had a care in the world. While there I kept seeing this guy with a center console keep playing with his boat every 15-30 mins. It was beached about 50' from mine. My thought was that it kept floating free. I never thought about it further. So after watching the fireworks at Sea World and hanging at the bonfire we had it was time to pack it up. I took some stuff to the boat and that's when I noticed the tide had gone out leaving my boat sitting on the sand a good 20-30 feet from the water. Apparently that guy I saw earlier was repositioning his boat. So I got a couple of my friends and we spun the boat around and rocked it back in to the water. It took us a good 45 minutes with the tide still going out. All the while the guy with the other boat and some girls laughed. In the end I got the last laugh because he ended up with his boat stuck too and only him to try and push it back. I heard him yelling as I was putting my boat back on the trailer and just ignored him. Had he helped me instead of laughed like an arrogant *** I would've helped him. I learned a valuable lesson and since then let line out to avoid getting stuck high and dry. Sad part is that we can't blame alcohol on this little mishap as we weren't drinking.
 

foodfisher

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Re: Forgot about the tide

"He who laughs last, laughs best." I'd would have helped and made a friend. Merry Christmas.
 

foodfisher

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Re: Forgot about the tide

I don't get it. Why treat people like ****?

Two ways to go Charlie. The adjuster who didn't warn the other about the lowering tide or the learner who got even with the snickerer. Who treated who like ****? IMHO both. I'm sure an m is needed with one of those who's. Edit: Life is full of decisions/actions. Those decisions/actions define who we are. Off the box.
 

rpsloan

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Re: Forgot about the tide

I admit after looking back on that night the right thing to do would've been to help. However I'm not Sea Tow or Vessel Assist and could've likely ended up in a bad situation due to a mishap trying to help someone. In the sue happy state I live in, if I'd of accidentally popped a cleat off the other guys boat trying to pull him out with my boat, I would've likely ended up with legal action against me.
 

H20Rat

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Re: Forgot about the tide

which is why you don't pull from a cleat! i've pulled lots of people off sandbars before. Worst damage I've ever had was a couple snapped ropes. Generally if you are pulling off your stern eyelets attached to the other boats bow eye, the rope is going to be the first thing to go.

I have no doubts that if i fired up my merc v6 jet attached to someone's cleat, the only thing I'd be removing from a sandbar is the cleat with a little fiberglass attached to it!
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Forgot about the tide

here's a factor that I think makes a difference: You had several people in your party already helping you recover from your own mistake (and a very basic one at that). You spent 45 minutes of hard work recovering from your own mistake. If he had come over and spent 45 minutes of his evening on your mistake--would it have made much difference? it's not like you were struggling alone when an extra hand would have solved your problem (yet he was alone and could have used an extra hand).

I have seen a lot of inexperienced boaters caught by tide issues where I boat. I help when it makes a difference and when they can't handle it themselves; I expect the same.

Anyone who doesn't provide reasonable help out of fear of being sued is using that as an excuse not to help--or they have no grasp of the law of negligence. Of course, the decision to help someone has to be made considering the real risks to you and your equipment, your skills and abilities (including your equipment's capacity), the other person's and other real factors. And it is legitimate to decline to help someone, who it not in danger, if the time commitment is too great (the 5 mile tow in safe conditions).
 

rpsloan

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Re: Forgot about the tide

Well everyone has their own opinions. One my 17 foot boat wasn't going to move a 25' Parker, two even with the help of myself and the friends who helped me I don't think we could've moved that boat. Was all we could do to rock and push a shallow v bass boat that weighed around 2,000 pounds back in to the water. I'm not saying my actions were right or justified. I was just stating what had happened and my opinion on the matter at the time it happened. Now that I'm older, wiser, more mature and have a membership to boat us/vessel assist I'd be more inclined to help someone even if they act like they did.
 
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