Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

Marlin11

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I am thinking of towing a Searay 185 sport with my Ford Escape FWD limited V6. It has a 350 tongue weight and 3500lbs towing. I am getting a class II or III hitch. It will be flat florida travel only. Anybody had expierence or advise on towing with this car. I have recieved many different opinions from it will be ok to might be rough. Any advise or experiences would be great.
 

Brewman61

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

You know the weight of your boat, trailer, gear, etc...? You may be pushing right up against the tow rating of your vehicle.
Can you? Possibly. Should you? Your call.
 

ezmobee

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

SeaRay and I/O or an outboard? Personally I think you're pushing it and may have some trouble on the ramps.
 

oldjeep

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

1) You are probabally near your max load.
2) FWD sucks for pulling boats out of the water since the trailer and boat are weighting the rear wheels and unweighting the front wheels. Be prepared to have a couple people sit on the hood when pulling out if the ramp has much slope to it.
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

Boat is 2800 dry and cant recall the trailer but I will be pushing that limit. FWD was one of my concerns on some of more sloped ocean docks.
 

NYBo

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

I think the towing limit for your vehicle is 3000#. But don't take my word for it; look in your owner's manual.
 

brick75

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

Boat is 2800 dry and cant recall the trailer but I will be pushing that limit. FWD was one of my concerns on some of more sloped ocean docks.

If you're boat is 2800# dry, adding the trailer will likely get you right up near your limit (if not over). Then add gas, people and gear and you're definitely over. If it were me, I wouldn't do it.
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

The Escape is rated for a 3500# tow IF EQUIPPED WITH THE TOW PACKAGE.

I fear that your load will exceed 3500# ready to launch.

The combination of short wheelbase and FWD really limits safe operation even if you were towing 2500#

Rule of thumb: Unless you are professionally trained for towing do not exceed 70% of the rated load.

Strike three. You need a different tow vehicle.

Good luck. :)
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

short wheel base is concerning to me, pushing the limit on top of that the explorers[exploders], escapes and what not have the issue with the rear ends saggin when close to max. you may have issues towing highway when people pass you making the trailer sway. also thats a heavy load for that drivetrain make sure you have a tranny cooler, and drive with over drive off.
 

americaneagler77

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

dont do it, i wish i still had the pics but last memorial day weekend within 10 exits of eachother i saw 2 suvs upside down and people strapped to stretchers on the highway because they pushed what the little suv could handle. once that heavy boat gets swaying the truck isnt going to control it, the boat will control the truck. one of the rigs i saw that was totally destroyed was a pathfinder towing a mid twenty foot camper, it was destroyed, as were the passengers from what i saw. the other was a mercury mariner with a 18-19 foot boat. this was just on its side and the boat off trailer. indeed it was a windy day. people get their first boat, go the the dealer, my truck can tow 3500 lbs, the rig is 3400 dry, will it tow it mr salesman? oh sure it will be fine! its a joke.......not a fan....
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

Looks like the 185 sport goes between 2400lbs to 2600lbs depending on the year and engine. I've towed my sig boat of a shorter length but with a 2900lb dry weight and 4000lb trailer/wet weight with a vehicle rated at 3500lbs prior to owning two body on frame, fully capable suv's. The difference is my vehicle was a heavy, long minivan with air springs and so those things masked how inappropriate a tow vehicle it actually was. The actual, on-the-highway towing part was fine. Sudden stops were scary and an emergency maneuver could have been deadly. In town, stop and go towing was really too much for it and its cooling system and pulling out of a ramp was fine no matter how insanely steep it was. It takes shockingly low torque to pull two tons out of the water. Just the slightest amount of pedal and you are out. Even the slightest amount of algae or heavy use and hence wet cement and the fwd struggled. You would have to shut off the traction control and spin up the ramp in a cloud of smoke. Better tires mitigated that probably 60%. The difference between a full truck frame, 300+ hp v8, 4wd, 6500lb tow capacity and all the stuff a real tow vehicle has compared to a unibody, v6 is like a horse compared to a luxury car. Life while towing is 100% less stressful and even if you manage a safe trip to the ramp with an inappropriate tow vehicle, you stress the whole time out on the water of whether your car will get your boat out. If a failed emergency maneuver doesn't get you the stress will. Towing with the wrong vehicle will provide a very quick education as to why trucks are so superior to car chasis'. As midsized suv's die off I fear we will see more of this type of situation in the coming years. Boats aren't downsizing and are seemingly getting heavier while crossovers and their lighter construction and smaller engines proliferate.
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

people get their first boat, go the the dealer, my truck can tow 3500 lbs, the rig is 3400 dry, will it tow it mr salesman? oh sure it will be fine! its a joke.......not a fan....

100% correct doesnt matter what your vehical is they will always tell you, you can pull it no problem. i've seen this before and when they tell me that i say, i think i'll be the judge of that. a salesmen tried selling my dad a 15k lbs trailer and his 1 ton had a max of 12k, salesman doesnt care how you move it after you hand him the check.

as i posted the first time if you do hual it make sure you have a tranny cooler and drive with overdrive off or in 3rd gear.
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

We have an '03 Escape 4WD,V6 and it is rated for #3500 towing. I've pulled our utility trailer with it but wouldn't want to tow anywhere near #3500 with it. Great vehicle, just not for towing. Wheel base too short, brakes not up to stopping #3500 and they do have transmission issues. Besides the fact your boat and trailer with gear will put you over that limit.
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

That's a big negative- don't do it. Small Suv's just aren't designed as anything more than a high riding box on a car chassis (or unibody). Small drive train parts, small brakes. All bad things. 16' Aluminum boat maybe, but not your Searay.
 

scipper77

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

Our last tow vehicle was an 01 escape with the tow package. I towed a 17' open bow @ 2500 lbs total, definately less than 3000lbs. It was barely edequate. Brakes were the weakest link in my opinion.

Also as was mentioned earlier there are tranny issues with those escapes (it's what did ours in). Basically the tranny's run hot. Make sure not to tow in overdrive and pony up for a tranny flush service from time to time. If you follow this advice you should be ok from a transmission perspective. Also a tranny cooler would be a good idea.
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

You might be fine until the trailer gets a little sway for any reason or you end up needing to stop quick. A little boat sway and you wont have a excape or a boat left. Someone pulls out in front of you and you and them are done for. Don't do it. Not worth the risk to you and everyone around you.
 

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Re: Ford Escape pulling a Searay 185 sport

I'm not piling on the OP because he's already been pounded enough. This is kind of a general observation stemming from several posters mentioning wheelbase length and jkust's post about minivan relative to truck.

My boat totals out about 1800 lb and I tow it with a 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5.2 V8. The GC is rated to tow around 5700 - 6000 pounds depending...

My hair stands up when I try to imagine towing 6k with my Jeep, primarily because of wheelbase issues. Stopping power is an issue as well, but my assumption is a 6k load would have its own brakes. As light as my boat is, the short wheelbase tends to create a "tail wagging the dog" issue. Rig tows great on the interstate but can get a little hairy on a winding county road. In jkust's example, the minivan does reasonably well because it has a longer wheelbase than my Jeep.

My buddy has a 1999 F150 4WD that I have towed with on a few occasions. It has a tow rating only slightly higher than the Jeep and I believe is maybe 500 lbs heavier. But the towing experience is entirely different because of wheelbase.

Long story short, short wheelbase compact SUVs are probably not a great tow vehicle choice, especialy when pushed near capacity.
 
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