Fatal Crash, 18' bowrider head on into houseboat in the dark

robert graham

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That's a terrible crash! Looks like with that many boats/drunks on the lake at once everybody would just try "idle/slow" speed. Every summer, and as the temperature rises, the boating deaths start going up. This year, here in South Carolina, we've already passed last year's boating fatality total. Some folks think that "boating" means getting drunk on the water.
 

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I read in another report that the speed boat driver claims the house boat had no lights on. RCMP are investigating all aspects.
 

oldjeep

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I read in another report that the speed boat driver claims the house boat had no lights on. RCMP are investigating all aspects.



Even if it didn't have lights on it, you shouldn't be driving that fast in the dark in a boat with no headlights or beyond the range of your headlights.
 

Andy'sDelight

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Even if it didn't have lights on it, you shouldn't be driving that fast in the dark in a boat with no headlights or beyond the range of your headlights.

Not sure where you boat and if the rules are different, but you shouldn't be driving with headlights unless you're using them to dock the boat. Headlights don't work on the water like they do in a car, and even more importantly they are deceptive and blinding to other boaters on the water. Headlights can easily blend into the lights on the shore horizon. All vessels should follow the proper CG guidelines for nav lights, which are red/port, green starboard, and a white stern light for most powered vessels.
 

cheetah90

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Even if it didn't have lights on it, you shouldn't be driving that fast in the dark in a boat with no headlights or beyond the range of your headlights.


Your right he should not have been going that fast, but if its true the house boat didn't have his lights on the accident may of been avoided, there both at fault in my eyes.
 

Rscardina

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This post is properly catergorized.."stupid"..

I have been on boats my entire life and still can't believe what i read regarding accidents on the water..Its mind blowing that any individual would be going that fast in the dark...not to mention hitting a house boat of all things. I do not claim to know proper houseboat rules when it comes to location, distance from channels etc..

While i do not hit lakes often, i do hit the ocean and follow all markers and obide by the water laws.. I have used a hand held high powered light to scan the water as i am making my way in..to avoid lobster traps and such.....

It a tragedy..I'm speechless..
 

hubbard53

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yeah, this is unfortunate. Lights are very important - we noticed on July 4th that there were many boats without lights - we just kept a spotlight on them until they got away from my boat
 

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Re: Fatal Crash, 18' bowrider head on into houseboat in the dark

What a terrible crash. We had a fatal wreck here over the fourth, too. Different circumstance entirely, though.

A good boater will assume there are unlit objects out there. While you should never use headlights on a boat, the analogy is sound--don't overdrive your visibility. I have spent a lot of my life drivnig small boats in some of the darkest stretches of coastal marsh ever and I know.

Fourth of July night, I went out and saw fireworks by boat and had about a 10 mile run home in a busy seaport harbor. There were at least 50 boats anchored or milling about in the pitch black bay (very dark night, if you recall). Then a stream of baots going home. Most people had legal lights but my opinion is: legal is sometimes not enough. That one little white bulb 30 feet up a sailboat mast or on top of a 30' cabin cruiser serves no safe purpose at all in a busy area with lots of shore lights. Those captains, I think, have a duty to display additional lights, such as spreaders or hulls or cabins (but not bow lights when you aren't moving--another unsafe practice.
So I'm not saying the houseboat captain was at fault at all. he is purely a victim. Let's say he had that one little white light in the middle of the 30' by 14' boat's roof. In hindsight, he would be alive if he took measures to protect himself from other's stupidity.
Frankly I think the "one light" rule needs to be changed.

Oh, and when I boat in dark waters, a spotlight shined on me is extenquished with a bullet. That light is as dangerous to me as shooting at me. Never shine a light on someone's cockpit area at night.
 

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It's hard to say how fast he was going. The upper level of that houseboat looks like it was made out of a thin plywood skin. I'm not expert, but it seems to me like an 18' boat going no more than 10 knots would have ended up plowing right into the cabin. Boats are made to plough through water, and they plough through other things as well.
 

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I boat alot at night and I go slow and watch like a hawk, its the only way as far as I'm concerned.
Many others do not care and while I dont see it a whole lot on Lake Michigan I do see it on smaller inland lakes, boats running with no lights on at night.
I do agree that many times the bare minimum legal lighting is not enough which only makes me feel better about my good lighting and watching around me like a hawk.

What a horrible crash that must have been that night.
Sadly I think its fortunate that only 1 person lost their life in that whole ordeal. Thin plywood or not it took some real speed and momentum to wedge that big heavy craft into the houseboat like that.
Some of the comments on the story are as sad as the accident.

I dont carry a pistol or spotlight on my boat. I do have a flare gun.
 

NoKlu

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Rumour has it he was doing high speed circles just before he ran in to the house boat. Shuswap lake is a very large lake and is known as the houseboat capital of Canada. There is literally hundreds of houseboats for rent on that lake and in high season they are all rented out. Big lumbering vessels are the norm there so navigating at night should be slow and great care should be taken. We will have to wait until the investigation is over and released but it's hard to believe.with a bunch of people on the houseboat,there was no lights on.
 

JSGOLD

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In my state we have a river with a lot of barge traffic on it, dangerous at night for sure but we have had accidents, alost always fatal. Not that long ago an enitre family, save for the husband perished.....at least t kids, wife, and I think another person. They got in the middle of the river at night and got run over.....poor guy commited suicide later as I recall.
 

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Re: Fatal Crash, 18' bowrider head on into houseboat in the dark

the legal lighting on a barge is likewise insufficient, IMO, in busy waterways.

And then there's the Philadelphia thing....
 
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