Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 3

bennysku

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As of recently my evinrude 140hp is intermittently firing on cylinders 1 and 3. I assume this is probably an issue with my power pack, but would like to verify before purchasing a new one. Is there a good way to test the power pack? Also, correct me if I'm wrong that if the stator or rectifier was bad I probably wouldn't fire on any cylinder.
 

JUSTINTIME

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Re: Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 3

yep if the Sta is bad no spark will occurs
could be trigger also
get a manual and start to do test before throwing parts on it
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 3

The purpose of the rectifer has to do with converting AC voltage to DC voltage which is required to charge the battery. It (rectifier) has nothing to do with the ignition.

To test the powerpack.......

With the spark plugs removed, rig up some type of spark tester whereas you can set a gap to be jumped. On the solid state OMC ignition systems from 1973 to the present (yours), set the gap to 7/16". The spark should jump the gap with a strong blue lightning like flame..... a real strong blue snap!

If there was no spark, disconnect the RED main electrical plug at the engine. Remove the s/plugs. crank the engine via the starter solenoid (jumper bat term to small 3/8" term nut, not the ground nut) and observe spark. If spark is now okay as stated above, the usual cause is a shorted ignition switch.

If the above checks out okay, you can usually assume that the powerpack is faulty, HOWEVER, visually check the stator under the flywheel.

The stator is a two fold purpose component. A series of coils provides AC voltage to the rectifier for battery charging purposes BUT there are two large black coils that provide AC voltage to the powerpack.

If the stator should be cracked and/or leaking a sticky substance down on the timer base area and powerhead, that would result in a voltage drop from two large black coils within the stator that normally provide approximately 300 AC volts to the powerpack capcitor. Obviously, if these two large black coils should fail, the powerpack, although it itself may be perfect, could not function properly.

Spark Tester - Home Made
(J. Reeves)

A spark tester can be made with a piece of 1x4 or 1x6, drive a couple nails through it, then bend the pointed ends at a right angle. You can then adjust the gap by simply twisting the nail(s). Solder a spark plug wire to one which you can connect to the spark plug boots, and a ground wire of some kind to the other to connect to the powerhead somewhere.

Using the above, one could easily build a spark tester whereas they could connect 2, 4, 6, or 8 cylinders all at one time. The ground nail being straight up, the others being bent, aimed at the ground nail. A typical 4 cylinder tester follows:


..........X1..........X2

.................X..(grd)

..........X3..........X4
 

bennysku

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Re: Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 3

I will try your suggestion today. And then I will have more questions I'm sure.
 

bennysku

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Re: Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 3

1977 evinrude 140hp - It was firing fine up until I change the head gasket because my compression was 25psi on cylinder 1. I found that the person I got the boat from put on new iginition coils but hooked them up on the cylinders that blew out the gasket. Don't know if this caused an issue while I was cranking to test compression.
 

bennysku

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Re: Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 4

Re: Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 4

During lunch today I did what was suggested by Reeves and with all s/plugs out I get spark (blue) on every cylinder, but with the plugs in still no spark on cylinder 1 or 4. I figure this is cause my cranking speed is slower with compression and isn't generating enough spark. My battery is fully charged and I looked at the stator and couldn't see any cracks or any substance leaking. So with the plugs out showing spark, but no spark with plugs....Should I assume possible stator issue?
 

ezeke

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Re: Evinrude not firing on cyl 1 & 3

You most likely need more cranking speed. If the battery is powerful enough, the issue will be in the wiring or the starter.

Battery cables can look fine and be corroded badly inside the shield.

Connections that look OK can be useless. Take the wiring down one connection at a time, thoroughly clean them, and reconnect.
 
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