Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

[RoeWalker]

I have a 1978 Evinrude 10824M 9.9 Pull Start and I'm having trouble with the rope not wanting to recoil. If I loosen the mounting bolt for the rewind start assembly enough the rope will recoil but the assembly is wobbly and the bolt feels like its barely holding it in place. The spring feels strong so I'm wondering if maybe it just needs a good cleaning? Or needs to be lubricated? Sounds like a simple question, but what should I use to lubricate the spring and do I need to disassemble or can I spray something and pull the rope to allow it to "spread out"? Am I way off base and need to just replace the spring?

Thanks for your help!

 

[kbait]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

There is a tab on bottom of recoil housing which must orient to the hole in mounting bracket.. a couple inches toward the powerhead from center bolt. If you have that lined up and it still binds w/center bolt tight, then you likely have a stray washer under the spring. the washer fits to the center bolt just below the spring. If that's loose in there, it'll bind the spring when recoil is mounted tightly.

Good luck!

 

[RoeWalker]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Thanks for the quick response. I've taken it apart multiple times trying to find what binding it and always put the washer and tab back in the right place. Will wd40 or a silicone spray lubricant help or hurt? marine grease?

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

If it's binding when tight, it's not a lubrication issue. As kbait noted, make doubly sure the washer under the bolt is present as it needs to be in there or the bolt WILL bind the pulley when tightened.

 

[racerone]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Binding is usually caused by that washer that is inside the cup being out of place.---Not much else can be wrong.

 

[RoeWalker]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Just to confirm that I'm not missing a washer, there is one washer that sits underneath the spring, right? Just open it up and make sure its seated properly?

 

[OptsyEagle]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

I am assuming you mean that when you pull the rope out a couple of feet, it does not want to recoil all the way back, at all. If this is the problem, I suspect that the little bit of spring that is supposed to protrude out of the side of the cup may have got itself pushed into the cup. If this is the case, you will need to get the spring end back out or it will never properly recoil. That end that should remain on the outside of the cup needs to be turned to prevent it from being pulled inside the cup, when using the starter. The other thing that can happen is the plastic pulley part that the other end of the spring wraps around, may have cracked. This will also prevent it from recoiling properly.

The first issue is fixable, but can be quite a pain (what am I talking about ... it is a pain, a big pain) . The spring pretty much has to come out of the cup (wear safety glasses) and be then hand turned back in, and that job is difficult and messy (since grease should be applied to the spring and grease is messy ... you will see what I mean if you need to do this). The second issue requires a new pulley part.

I doubt grease or any lubricant is going to help it recoil if it is not presently doing so.

 

[RoeWalker]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

OK. Thanks for your help. I'll pull it off again and have another look. It usually rewinds most of the way h\leaving about 6 -10 inches hanging out, then slowly rewinds as the motor runs.

 

[OptsyEagle]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Well that probably rules out a broken pulley. You don't need to take it off to confirm my other issue. Does the spring have a little curled amount rolled up outside the side of the cup? If it does, then that is not your problem, either.

If all is OK with the spring, above, then what I would do is this.

Remove the starter from the motor. Hold everything very tightly. Turn the assembly until the rope handle is tightly up against the outside of the motor and the starter is up against the other side of the motor. The air silencer may need to be removed for this. Now, holding it firmly, pull the starter assembly back towards the base it attaches to so that the spring starts to wind under force. You have to hold it firmly when doing this. Now attach it and you are done. It should be under spring tension when not in use, and of course, under even more spring tension when pulled out and therefore should recoil properly. If it doesn't let us know and we can investigate further.

 

[racerone]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Maybe you just need to take the handle off and put an extra turn on the pulley.

 

[OptsyEagle]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Remove the starter from the motor. Hold everything very tightly. Turn the assembly until the rope handle is tightly up against the outside of the motor and the starter is up against the other side of the motor. The air silencer may need to be removed for this. Now, holding it firmly, pull the starter assembly back towards the base it attaches to so that the spring starts to wind under force. You have to hold it firmly when doing this. Now attach it and you are done. It should be under spring tension when not in use, and of course, under even more spring tension when pulled out and therefore should recoil properly. If it doesn't let us know and we can investigate further.

"Maybe you just need to take the handle off and put an extra turn on the pulley"

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Those two suggestions are pretty much the same thing. My, much longer winded explanation, is how I go about getting that extra turn or tension into the starter, before I even pull on it.

 

[AlTn]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

if you become frustrated trying to align the starter bolt, pulling the flywheel will provide much easier access...I did and it did..fwiw

 

[RoeWalker]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Thanks to everyone! Will try cutting the rope and see if it still wont rewind.

 

[racerone]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

Why cut the rope ?----Just take the handle off and and put an extra turn on the sheave.----Put the handle back on.----This puts a bit of extra tension on the spring.

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude 9.9 Rewind Spring

DON'T CUT THE ROPE!! It's supposed to be a certain length. Too short and you'll pull the spring out of it...