Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

StevNimrod

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

I don't know that the problem is the law, inasmuch as it's the idiots hired to interpret it. It's very difficult to write something in terms of laws or public policy and have it catch every possible scenario. It's practically impossible, so you'd just try your best to get something on paper that captures the vast majority of cases.

That's where the idiots come in. Someone suggesting that it's the spirit of the law to get plates to move a vehicle one time a grand total of a few miles is missing the point. Which is why many states offer a one day moving permit.

As far as taxes go, maybe the family can round up a penny (literally one red cent) in consideration for the mobile home and renovations? Might help avoid the charity and gift tax issues.

It bothers me greatly that your local people have chosen you to be the outlet of their laziness. And frankly that's all it is. For every case like yours there are probably five corporations that actually are bending laws beyond recognition, and not even making a half-hearted effort at covering it up. But as I see it, top shelf law firms are more intimidating to these clerks than the ordinary citizen would be so guess who gets picked on.

Depending on how small your town is, you might be able to get away with approaching a county judge off the record to see what his thought are if your issue, say, happened to make it to his docket.

Avoidance doesn't fix the problem and doesn't help anyone else similarly situated.
 

tswiczko

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

X2 on the pennies, but you would either have to sit there and count them for them or trust them to count them.:facepalm:
 

j_martin

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

A contract, with the payment of "one dollar and other considerations" cleans up a lot of loose ends.
 

Kiwi Phil

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

A contract, with the payment of "one dollar and other considerations" cleans up a lot of loose ends.

Yes, I have to go along with this solution, but hey, in this case it's like shutting the gate after the horse bolted, but it is certainly worth remembering for the future.

I don't blame the county clerk at all, nor the law,
The situation is due to large numbers of people breaking, lying, evading, twisting, manipulating your by-laws.
Your case does not warrant fines-penalties, but the Clerk and County have to impose the law.

If they don't, some one will get wind of it, and when they get 'audited' they will quote your 'outcome', and if they don't get their own way, then they will accuse the County of double standards etc etc.( and lets face it, these people are always the ones who contribute the most and take the least from their communities - NOT)

It really is an impossible no-win position for you Bubba, but I do admire you for what you did and your attitude now.

Cheers
Phillip
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

A letter to your local papers op-ed page wouldn't hurt, leaving out enough details so know one would know who the recipient is.
 

mommicked

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

Bubba1235,Im suprised the tax lady didnt know about this before hand in your sparsely populated county,Or was she from a big city outside your area?Gubment seems to bend/break rules all the time,but if a citizen does it, watch out.It sounds like this has gone beyond standard protocol and maybe on the verge of abuse of power.Have you spoken to a lawyer about it?
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

I guess city folks don't quite understand when I say our entire county has a population of 2000 and everyone pretty much knows everyone or certainly know of the families.

Seriously, no way that would work and in the end it would serve no purpose other than singling these folks out for more grief.
The closest town to me is Makanda, IL., pop. 300. :facepalm:

Every once in a while we all insert foot in mouth. :facepalm:

As soon as I clicked the "magic button, 2000 popped into my head, but alas too late. :redface:
 

marine4003

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

contact the local paper, detail the ordeal,hopefully the outcry will have the local pols telling the clerk to back off..
 

greenbush future

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

I think on principal, I would have to stand up for good and not let this situation just slide by. The better, stronger person may be able to, but when I see poor human behavior, I find it hard to ?just let it go?. Taxes in general and the annual one you speak of in Mo.would boil my blood anyways, maybe that?s why I would be that upset.
Your good intentions smashed by our elected officials, is not what anyone ever voted yes for. To me the crime would be not making sure everyone alive read this story.
You?re a great person,
 

jkust

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

I've delt with some of these small town bureaurcrats and they weild a ton of power. In many small towns, especially vacation town where people have second homes here in MN, everyone knows the name of that one local government employee that we all have to go through to make improvements on our land, etc. To get things done, you have to go through certain construction companies and "preferred" service providers or your permit is denied or your land deemed wetland. Those folks have long forgotten they work for us. The big pitcure here to me is that our government has become more of a charity intermediary more than anything else.
 

ttugrad

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Re: Every good deed... Or, why I hate government bureaucracy

For one, I am proud of you and think that we need more people and communities like yours. I don't know your religious beliefs, but I firmly believe that rewards for such a deed may not be here on earth but certianly in the hereafter.

Thank you for helping your fellow man and sorry for all the crap you had to put up with. Your comments tell me that in spite of all the extra bull you have had to put up with you would probably do it again without reservation. Good for you!
 
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