eboxy transducer

garry

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If you eboxy your transducer to the inside of your hull and don't like how it works how hard is it to get loose?
 

Bondo

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Re: eboxy transducer

Ayuh,... Pretty much Impossible....
 

Bass Buster One

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Re: eboxy transducer

OK,..Bond-o,....given your many years of experience, tell this guy, and the rest of us, how to choose the correct positioning point to install the transducer in his and/or our boats. I could use a lesson here myself. Thanks in advance Bond-o.
 

bruceb58

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Before you decide to put it in your bilge with epoxy, fill the bilge with water and sit the transducer in the water where you plan on mounting it. Try it out with it in there under a few different conditions and then just lower it over the side of the boat and note the difference. If the degradation is acceptable, then you can mount it in your bilge.
 

dingbat

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If the degradation is acceptable, then you can mount it in your bilge.
How do you determine how much sensitivity and resolution you?ve lost? How much signal degradation is acceptable? The unit could have binders on and still give you a correct depth reading.
 

garry

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Re: eboxy transducer

Thanks for the input, I need a spelling lesson before I tackle the transducer (epoxy). The boat had a transducer mounted in the hull, but also had a transom mount that is currently being used, the in hull transducer is not the right kind for my Eagle and it came loose so I have a good spot to mount the transducer in the hull. I did the test yesterday but did not get a very good reading shooting thru the hull, but had a hard time keeping it wieghted down on the spot, very hard to get at. I lose my readings all the time with the transom mount at any speed over 5 mph, adjusted it many times.
 

bruceb58

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How do you determine how much sensitivity and resolution you?ve lost? How much signal degradation is acceptable? The unit could have binders on and still give you a correct depth reading.
If its a fishfinder you can tell by looking at the chart itself. If you are in an area with a deep mud bottom the echo won't be as strong and if there is degradation in the signal shooting through the hull, you won't even pick up the bottom.

Just so you know, the above recommendation I gave originally came from Lowrance. Sounds like you doubt their test!

And what's a "binder"?
 

dingbat

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If its a fishfinder you can tell by looking at the chart itself. If you are in an area with a deep mud bottom the echo won't be as strong and if there is degradation in the signal shooting through the hull, you won't even pick up the bottom.

Just so you know, the above recommendation I gave originally came from Lowrance. Sounds like you doubt their test!

And what's a "binder"?

Using the bottom to determine signal lose is like the eye doctor using a mountain range as an eye chart. It may confirm that your long distance vision is good but it tells you nothing about your ability to see things between here and there. If you use your depth finder for no other purpose than depth, you can get away with the mountain method.

As a fisherman, the primary purpose of the sounder is to identify locate and identifiy targets in the water column. I want to know what I can no longer see because of the frequency shift and the loss of db when the transducer is mounted inside the hull. Using something with a very weak return from the thermocline or a salt inversion gives me a much better idea of the signal losses associated with the shot thru transducer.

And what's a "binder"?
oops, blinders :D
 

bruceb58

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Using the bottom to determine signal lose is like the eye doctor using a mountain range as an eye chart.
You totally missed my point. You need to find something that has a weak return and see if you still see it when it is in your bilge. I am not talking about something that has strong returns.
 
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