Does every boat need foam in it?

BlueGhost93

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Been looking at some boats and the majority of them don't have foam in them, but some have foam if it gets swamped i guess the idea is to keep it from sinking to the bottom. Is there any plusses or minuses other then that? If i get one without foam im wondering if i should fill a space with foam.

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Home Cookin'

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

right. and if the foam has been removed, that boat has had problems. but the foam in most boats is hidden so how do you know?
 

acdc96

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

What kind of boat you looking for?
 

H20Rat

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

To go along with what bob mentioned, there is no requirement that any boat have foam floatation. The requirement is that it must leave the manufacturers possession with foam if under 20 ft. What the private owner does at that point is not addressed, so removing the foam for any reason is legal.

Heard of lots of guys using pool noodles... They can be checked and replaced without ripping up the entire floor, but certainly don't meet USCG requirements in any way.
 

mrdancer

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

To further complicate matters, the CG rules only apply to recreational boats under 20 feet. Commercial hulls are not required to have floatation.

Many duckhunters have taken advantage of this "loophole" by purchasing commercial hulls from duck boat manufacturers (yes, the mfrs. are in on it, too). Their reasoning is that the floatation takes up useable space, adds weight and may eventually become waterlogged, plus the fact that they are usually hunting in shallow waters and they are generally too macho to sink a boat.

Biggest problem comes in where a second owner purchases the boat and does not realize it lacks proper safety floatation. Not a legal requirement, to my knowledge, but generally poor practice.
 

Texasmark

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

Back in the '60's and on for awhile the deck (floor) was "sealed" (Ha!) forming an air pocket between it and the hull. This was the flotation mechanism. Oh and reasoning on flotation is that it may help you to recover your craft and if you are overboard, it gives you something to help keep you afloat besides your life jacket.....if you were smart enough to be wearing it, or had one on board at all.

Problem with that theory was that as the boat was used the hull would flex and the seals would open and water would get under the floor in the air chamber and lo and behold your boat has added several hundred pounds and was hard to control. BTDT '63 Taylor Craft.

So Foaming came into play where an expanding 2 part plastic was injected into areas of the boat to provide flotation. This was "open cell" material and could and would absorb water if not sealed (another Ha! for the same reason). Some Mfgrs. like Starcraft for one (I had one I restored) used closed cell styrofoam batts, like in coffee cups, under the deck which would get wet when water was in the boat but remained functional do to the closed cell design....ever had a coffee cup leak?

Don't remember the year but I do recall that somewhere along the line, mid '80's or so, there was a requirement (from whom I don't know) that boats shall float upright. That meant that the foam needed to occupy the higher parts of the boats. Remembering an '89 Ranger I had, a lot of otherwise usable space at the transom especially, was useless due to all the flotation material.

My 2c,

Mark
 

BlueGhost93

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

Thanks guys. Yea I'm looking at two boats to possibly by. One is a 89 bayliner center console with a 75hp Johnson stinger. I haven't seen this boat yet. But the second is a home made wood dory type skiff that's been epoxyed and glassed and it has no foam in it anywhere so I guess I should have asked if I should look into foaming some of the under deck storage areas.
 

UncleWillie

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

... the second is a home made Wood dory type skiff that's been epoxied and glassed and it has no foam in it anywhere so I guess I should have asked if I should look into foaming some of the under deck storage areas.

Might not take much, Wood floats naturally.
You'll only need enough foam to float the engine and the other attachments.
 

bonz_d

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Re: Does every boat need foam in it?

Look at it this way, If you use the boat in any condition were you will encounter cold water I feel it is setencial to have floatation foam in place. Even while fishing just a few hundred yards from shore hypothermial can overtake one in a hatter of minutes. It is much safer to stay with a half sunk boat then to try and swim for it! And then call for help. A well designed small boat will not sink,
 
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