Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

GatorMike

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I live in a little town on the outskirts of Orlando called Casselberry. About 10 years ago our homeowners association tried to get me to move my boat out of my driveway but we have no subdivision bylaws against it. What we do have is a city commissioner who is also active in the homeowners association. A few months after my run in with the HOA the city of Casselberry just happened to pass an ordinance saying no boats in front of the house. Code enforcement came knocking and said I needed to move my boat. I informed them that I have a side entry garage and my boat in the driveway was behind the front of the house.

A year or so later another ordinance was passed saying the boat had to be behind the front of the main living area of the house. Code enforcement came knocking again, this time I had to move it to the side of my house to conform. But that was not enough, last year they passed a law that the boat has to be screened by a fence that blocks the boat from view up to 8' (where do you buy an 8' fence?). The new ordinance went into effect Feb 1 of this year. On Feb 4 I was cited, however the code enforcement officer cited the old ordinance number. I sent him a registered letter requesting clairification and got no answer. A couple of weeks ago I got a 2nd notice with a notice to appear before the code enforcement board. I was pi$$ed. The code enforcement officer not only cited the old ordinance again but included in his registered letter a copy of the old ordinance.

What really pi$$ed me off was he was too chicken to knock on the door or even leave the notices on the door, instead he mailed them. Now what confirms that these ordinances are aimed at me is that 4 days after the new ordinance goes into effect I am cited while there are dozens of uncited boats around Casselberry.

So tonight I showed up at the code enforcement hearing well prepaired to do battle. What was really fun was after I pointed out all the inconsistancies I said I was perfectly willing to move my boat tomorrow and put up a fence if someone could show me in the ordinance I received in the certified letter where it said I had to have my boat screened from view. The board asked the code enforcement officer to show me. He started thumbing through the ordinance and you could tell he was having problems finding anything. Then one of the guys on the board who I happened to know said "Here I found it" and started reading. I was laughing to myself because he was reading from the same out of date ordinance that had been sent to me. LOL When he finished reading he had a dumbfounded look on his face and I asked, "Now Dave was there anything in that ordinance that said I had to have my boat screened from view?" Just then the lady who was in charge of the board said they needed to take a brief recess while they got their act together LOL.

They came back with the new ordinance, some bogus paperwork they claimed I was sent and proceeded on. I noticed the paperwork they came back with was not even signed, it had obviously just been printed off the computer. I let them dig a little deeper hole before I asked if they were sure I was sent that paperwork and if they got it out of the case file. After she answered yes I asked (in front of God and everybody) then why is this paperwork unsigned? After a brief discussion the woman in charge of the board announced that they would have to continue the hearing at next months meeting to give them a chance to get it together. LMAO

I know in the long run I am not going to win this case but I sure made some people look silly tonight.

BTW one reason I did this is because I too work in local Government, not for the municipality I live in but I am a building inspector for a neighboring county. I too deal with reading and enforcing codes and in our county if we cite someone we cite the right code and on the occations where we do make a mistake we do not try to cover it up.
 

RIDEPATE

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

Boat envy brother....The enforcement-officer does not have one as nice as yours, if one at-all. HOA's.... Don't get me started.....
 

1973Chieftain

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

Thats one of the reasons I live on 10 acres way out in the country... you can't even see my house from the road let alone any boats :D
 

buildmark

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

I have ordinances too but they send a letter with a date that they will stop by for a re inspection and I make sure my boat is not there on that date. They only get involved if someone calls to complain. I should be grandfathered in because I was here and had a trailer since the ordinance was created but that would be fighting city hall so I play by their rules.
 

26aftcab454

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

I live in Grapevine, TX--no HOA but we are a boating community as every 5th house has a boat out side. Years ago I got an old 1957 LoneStar Edorado-tn3.jpg and parked it in the driveway. After several months I got a notice from the city saying ' No boats in the Front" . I called the compliance guy and he said they only send a notice if someone complains, but they cannot really do anything.
SO we pull my brothers bass boat from the garage and put our 17ft orange canoe on a small utiliy trailer in the middle of the front yard for the Summer. never heard another word.:cool:
I still have my Glastron parked on the sideyard under a temp shelter.
 

fishrdan

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

What we do have is a city commissioner who is also active in the homeowners association.

Sounds like someone needs to be dethroned...

GatorMike for City Commissioner!


So now you are going to have to build an 8' fence to obscure the view of your boat from the street? An 8' fence would make a nice canvas to paint a picture of a 20' boat, wouldn't it? Hire a starving artist to paint it and call it your beautification project for the neighborhood :D
 

UncleWillie

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

The answer is YES!

Most cities do, but it is usually not enforced unless a neighbor complains.
 

tomdinwv

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

I think I'd be getting me a complete copy of all the codes in your municipality. Then I would visit my local council people's homes (without setting foot on their property) and see if I could find any violations. I'm sure if you could register a complaint about any code violations they may have, you'd probably get them to back off. Some of these folks on town councils (not all, just some) think they can skirt by laws and codes because of their status as an elected official. I'm sure they'd love to have their "dirty laundry" drug out in front of everyone at a town council meeting. Good luck GatorMike.
 

tpenfield

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

You neighbor must be on the town council or something . . . .
 

hostage

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

There are rules in my town and I technically kept my boat too close to the end of my driveway. No one complained the winter I had it parked there. We do try to keep everything looking nice at our house and we are pretty close with our neighbors. TBH having good relations with your neighbors completely outweighs any benifit of storing a boat at your house. Also parking anything in the drive way can cause greater wear on your driveway. Instead of paying to have my boat shrinked wrapped, I stored it in a warehouse for about the same ammount.

-Hostage
 

hillbilly321

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

Thats crazy man, I second the motion of painting a boat on your fence! Good luck!
 

southkogs

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

My HOA doesn't has always allowed boats in driveways, and I had one parked out in my driveway for over 5 years. Two years ago, a neighbor was givin' me grief on a couple of things (which I was trying to do to make them happy) and called city codes on my boat. Turns out in my zone of our city, there is a "required front yard" where the boat may not be parked. Okay, so I gotta' move it ... it'll be happier inside the garage anyway.

Humorously, The required front yard is 35' from the curb in front of the house. My garage door is 47' from the front curb of my house. I can technically & legally park my boat lengthwise across the face of my garage ... just to be a stinker :D
 

hog88

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

I don't live in Casslberry but used to do alot of work down there and that is one place I would never want to live in. That place is out of control with it's ordinances.

In my old nieghborhood I had a similar problem with the HOA director (real witch), the HOA rules clearly stated no boats, RV's or trailers can be parked in the DRIVEWAY in front of the house for more than 24 hours. Neighbor complained that I was parking my boat in front of my house so I got a nasty grahm. When I confronted the HOA director and explained that I would park it there Friday night then be out on Sat park it again then be out on Sun then put it back in storage. Never did it sit for more that 24 hours, she tried to explain that it was 24 hours total.

We went round and round for a couple of years until me and some neighbors highjacked the HOA board during an election and fired her. That was a good day!
 

shrew

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

HOA is not the city. If yo uhave a HOA you are subject to the rules of the HOA. MAny of them restrict parking trailers, boats, campers, etc in the yard and some restrict it even in the driveway. My inlaws live in a community where the HOA regulations state you can only park in the driveway temporarily and prefer the cars be parked in the garages. They also insist that garage doors be closed.

These are association rules. City ordinances are different. Some cities have ordinances about parking abandoned cars on blocks in the front yard. I've not seen many city ordinances restricting boat storage, but that may be the case.

Saying the most cities have ordinances restricting boat storage is ludicrus. some cities may, many HOA's do. But HOA regulations and city ordinances are mutually exclusive.
 

H20Rat

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

on any given day during the summer, my street has about 5 or 6 boats and about as many campers. ON THE STREET! I'm one of the few who is nice enough to park my boat in my driveway, in front of the house, most people just park on the street itself. Technically there is a city law about parking any trailer more than 24 hours in one spot, but it has never been enforced. Personally, I have no issue with street parking, it slows down traffic. (even though I'm on a one way street, there is always the one guy who has to floor it when leaving...)

The only unwritten rule that is followed fairly religiously is that you only park in front of your own house, and on your side of the street.
 

canuckjgc

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

Wow what a bunch of jokers you are dealing with, a recess to get their act together? That is so sad.

Being a boater, I actually agree with such ordinances. Your boat may be sweet, but the next guy may park a scow out front, which does nothing for property values or the image of the neighborhood (which also affect property values). I've seen some nasty rotting boats in driveways and I wish the city could step-in and deal with it. No difference from ordinances about keeping a clean yard, lawn mowed, etc. It benefits everyone in the end and part of the responsibilities of living in a community. People who don't like that should buy an acreage and do what they wish.

No way the OP should be treated like that however, no excuse for some very poor enforcement.
 
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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

My 2?. I like an enforced HOA or ordinance. I would also love to park my boat where I darn well please. That said, my HOA won't allow it...at least on an ongoing basis. On the other hand, the guy down the street from me parks his raised 4WD pick up with tires to the top of my head in his driveway and that's okay. As well, he keeps his table saw in the driveway, and there is always a bunch of trash bags in the front area...and apparently, that's okay. I have a spotless and clean well maintained yard, another neighbor has weeds and needs mowing, trashy overgrown bushes and apparently that's okay with the HOA and city. I own a rental property in another area and the City changed the law to require the owner to "block the street view" of the central air conditioning units because they are unsightly. I asked, "What about wall units hanging from windows and plastic flowers." They said those things aren't in the rules.

Point being, if there are rules they should be enforced equally. Sadly, that doesn't happen and there isn't much one can do about it except live in the country with a big piece of property. Even then (wake up America!) there are rules and the city/county can come out and make you clean it up.
 

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

My brother in law can't keep his nearly new Custom Chevy van in his driveway, he has to scrape the roof off parking it in the garage. He bought 2 old Mercury Grand Marquis station wagons off of CL for next to nothing. Complete with wood grain sides and all. They are UGLY, he loves them. Neighbors hate them. His boy will be turning 16 soon, he's scouring CL for 3 states looking for another! The kids hoping he won't find one.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Does anybody besides me live in a city with ordinances against boat parking?

I'm also in favor of general rules against parking boats, RV's and disabled vehicles in residential areas, but would want to see them enforced reasonably. A small boat, kept neat, on a trailer close to the house should be left alone. Not, however, a scruffy hulk on a rusted trailer with a blue tarp flopping around (blue tarps alone need to be out of sight). Or a big honking cabin cruiser--size matters here. Plus, if people use the driveway for storage, more cars have to be parked on the street.

And it's not just the street view. At a previous house, a neighbor behind me put a junk car in his back yard--and I saw it every time I looked out an upstairs window. Not having it. However, my next door neighbor asked my permission to put his small RV in the draiveway between us. Under that configuration, I couldn't see it from the house or yard and it didn't stick out so you saw it coming down the street (our garages were set back--a big problem comes from the more modern style of having the garage door the prominent feature of the property).

if you work hard to keep your house decent and to live in a decent neighborhood, you should have some means to have the neighbors keep theirs relatively and reasonably decent, too. And that includes what you see from your house--blue tarp boats included.

PS some neighborhoods have a "no commercial vehicles" rule. I think that rule needs to be applied selectively--it makes sense in a high-end neighborhood, but in a working class neighborhood, the guy who drives a company pick-up truck or van should be able to park at his home even though it has writing on it. Not a box truck, etc. It's all situational.
 
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