Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

ricohman

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I always find myself slowing down when fuel approaches $6 a gallon.
I set the cruise at 100kmh (62.5mph) and it takes as long as it takes. The boat doesn't drag nearly as much air as a travel trailer or a flat deck with a truck on top but I plan on slowing up a bit and get a couple more mpg.
 

rockyrude

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I know where the "sweet spot" for mpg is on my tow rig and keep it there. Less in the truck, more in the boat.
 

cpubud

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I find myself taking off slower and easier on the pedal. as well as going a little slower.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I generally tow at the same speed. Kind of know the "comfortable speed" for the outfit. Boat towing is faster than my travel trailer towing though.
 

TorchedGT

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I find myself taking off slower and easier on the pedal. as well as going a little slower.

Exactly - my cruise speed stays the same (which is always my optimum econ speed of low-60s) but I certainly don't mash the pedal when the light turns green (screw the people behind me! ;) )

Unfortunately the range rover still tachs up to around 4000rpm regardless of pedal position before it up-shifts if it detects a trailer (I'm assuming it does this so that it can short-shift/reduce heat and prevent the requirement for torque converter lockup initially, but I'm not sure) - certainly doesn't help mileage but I guess it was programmed this way for a reason.

I like to tow without any covers, but I think this season I'll be leaving the snap-on cover on the boat to improve aerodynamics.
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I like to tow without any covers, but I think this season I'll be leaving the snap-on cover on the boat to improve aerodynamics.


I didn't think a cover would make much of a difference, until I finally tried it last year. I will probably never tow without it again! 25%+ improvement in mileage just from having a good tight fitting cover.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

Exactly - my cruise speed stays the same (which is always my optimum econ speed of low-60s) but I certainly don't mash the pedal when the light turns green (screw the people behind me! ;) )

Unfortunately the range rover still tachs up to around 4000rpm regardless of pedal position before it up-shifts if it detects a trailer (I'm assuming it does this so that it can short-shift/reduce heat and prevent the requirement for torque converter lockup initially, but I'm not sure) - certainly doesn't help mileage but I guess it was programmed this way for a reason.

I like to tow without any covers, but I think this season I'll be leaving the snap-on cover on the boat to improve aerodynamics.

Your tranny will change or not change at specific RPM depending on the load you have. It is actually noticeable with a full load of people and luggage and nothing on the back.The cooler it runs the better as well. I have an additional tranny cooler on our Trailblazer for that reason.
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

Never mind just when towing . . . I wonder if the general population understands the relationship between speed and fuel economy. Last time when gas prices sky rocketed (2007 ?) I don't remember anyone slowing down or anything like that. . .

I tow at 55-60 mph, because the rig 'likes' that speed range. I don't think fuel prices would change that for me . . . Gets about 12 mpg towing at that speed.
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

Another way we intend to save gas this summer is that once the trailer is at the campground and the boat is in the dock there we will be leaving the Trailblazer on the driveway and taking the Grand Prix that does twice the MPG.
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

my boats small enough that it really dosent matter. (14' maybe 1000lbs with fuel and gear) i just tow at a safe speed but to get to the river/ramp the speed limit is 45mph and with construction they're doing to widen 95 its even slower (i had to take the overpasses).
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I tow at whatever is the safest minimum speed to keep speed up as needed for hills, merging, lane changes. I do watch the mileage meter and get a sense of accomplishment when I get my average MPG to move up.

I just won't scrub off so much speed that I have to accelerate so fast it kills any gains.

I also like to get high MPG on my daily commute.
 

robert graham

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

We're dragging the boat 500 miles to Florida next week on I-95 and pretty much have to "go with the traffic" around 75MPH...plan on burning $500 to $600 for gas during the week, marinas probably gettin' $5/gallon, or more! No need lettin' price of gas worry me while on vacation...just another expense, like food and lodging. If we get where we can't/won't pay the gas prices, then maybe stay closer to home! My wife and her sisters don't think twice about droppin' $50 at the Cracker Barrel for lunch, and you think that worries them any?;)
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

No, I'm not going to slow down and no I'm not going to boat less. :D
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

2 ocean marinas 15 minutes from my home.A big lake 20 minutes away. Gas in the boat is a bigger issue.
 
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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I've always driven trucks like gas was $10/gallon, which is more about my respect for driving big heavy objects than my wallet guiding my decisions. My cabin is 250 miles away so I routinely make 500 mile round trips. The highway is 70mph half of the way and 65mph the other half. I usually keep it between those two speeds the entire way.
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

Your tranny will change or not change at specific RPM depending on the load you have. It is actually noticeable with a full load of people and luggage and nothing on the back.The cooler it runs the better as well. I have an additional tranny cooler on our Trailblazer for that reason.

Well in typical cars the TCM shifts based on target speed (throttle position) and actual speed, plus a million different calculations between those two numbers. ie. quick increase in target speed and slowing actual speed = downshift, when approaching a hill etc etc.

My point was that I could not get the thing to up-shift when taking my foot almost off the accelerator, it still continued to increase rpm till it reached a specific number, NOT a specific speed or level of acceleration. I know what you're trying to say about load, but usually if you've got it mashed down and need to coast or stop increasing speed, taking your foot nearly off the pedal always results in an up-shift (at least if you're already over 3-3.5krpm!). Some of the guys on the rover forums hinted that the TCM senses load and calculates the required shift points so that the vehicle can achieve adequate acceleration in the NEXT gear after the shift is completed, but that the calculation is directly related to weight and not pedal position. :confused:

It does have a decent sized cooler from the factory, but fortunately it will also change shift maps if temperatures become too hot.

As far as TC lock-up is concerned, this is the only info I could find (from Jaguar but it has the same ZF 6HP trans I guess)

The TCM controls how the TCC is engaged as a function of the accelerator pedal position, OSS, TFT, gear selected and shift program. Lock-up is possible in all forward gears, but usually it is restricted to fourth, fifth and sixth gears. To make use of the comfort enhancing effect of the torque converter, the TCC can be disengaged prior to a downshift or upshift. The TCC is always modulated to allow controlled slip, to further improve the shift quality. Towing: When the TCM detects reduced vehicle acceleration for a certain percentage of throttle opening then this mode is automatically engaged by the TCM. When this mode is engaged a new shift map and TCC map is selected. This new shift map is designed to reduce the number of gearshiftswhen towing a trailer or with the car climbing a steep hill. The shift map will cause the transmission to hold on to gears for longer this increases acceleration and reduces the number of gearshifts. This mode can also give an advantage when driving at high altitudes, where the torque produced by an engine is greatly reduced by the effects of reduced ambient pressure and airflow.

I believe the vehicle sensor inputs and TCM software is a little more complex in the rover over the jag because it also has input data such as rear shock air pressure etc to determine load, but finding these internal component PDF documents is hard!
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

The price of fuel has taken my MPG drastically because I can't afford to tow the boat to the lake or put fuel in the boat nearly as often...:(
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I drive a diesel that has way more power than I would ever need to haul my small boat so towing it doesn't make a huge difference in my mileage. Having said that I bought the diesel with the intention of keeping it for a LONG time so when I tow anything I take it a little easy anyways to limit wear and tear so fuel price doesn't really change how I drive when I tow.
 

TorchedGT

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

I drive a diesel that has way more power than I would ever need to haul my small boat so towing it doesn't make a huge difference in my mileage. Having said that I bought the diesel with the intention of keeping it for a LONG time so when I tow anything I take it a little easy anyways to limit wear and tear so fuel price doesn't really change how I drive when I tow.

If I ever get another vehicle it'll be one of the 6.0 Excursions :cool: lol those things were beast
 

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Re: Do gas prices affect your towing speed?

The price of fuel has taken my MPG drastically because I can't afford to tow the boat to the lake or put fuel in the boat nearly as often...:(

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How many kidneys do you have?
 
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