Cup o' Joe?

Boomyal

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I've been meaning to ask this for sometime now. JB's "OK" post got me off my duff. I have heard the origin of the term at least two times in my life but for some reason it does not stick.<br /><br />I purposefully did not google it, just thought I would ask it here.<br /><br />What is the terms meaning and origin?
 

18rabbit

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Re: Cup o' Joe?

Boom - the origin of the expression is long lost, but it goes back much further than gi joe. One possible origin is that coffee is black and ‘black Joe’ was a popular expression for a black man in the late 1800’s, hence the reference to coffee as ‘joe’ during that time. No one really knows the origin but the expression did see a reemergence within the films noir of the 1940’s. That could explain the desire to connection it to ‘gi joe’.
 

Boomyal

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Re: Cup o' Joe?

Originally posted by theriver:<br /> cuppa joe <br /><br />memory fading?
That was a whole boat motor episode ago TR. :p Forgot I asked and never made it back to the post to see the answers. <br /><br />Guess I'll just be satisfied with the GI Joe version. It's as good as any. They sure valued their cuppajoe when out in the trenches.
 
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Originally posted by 18rabbit:<br /> Boom - the origin of the expression is long lost, but it goes back much further than gi joe. One possible origin is that coffee is black and ‘black Joe’ was a popular expression for a black man in the late 1800’s, hence the reference to coffee as ‘joe’ during that time. No one really knows the origin but the expression did see a reemergence within the films noir of the 1940’s. That could explain the desire to connection it to ‘gi joe’.
Well, I must admit I had never heard that legend. But then again, what can you expect from one with his head in the sand. :) Guess it depends on who you want to believe. Personally I'll go with educated opinion and logical progression. :cool:
 

EZLoader

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Let me add to the confusion...<br /><br />Two coffee names are "joe" and "hojo." These are not names for ports or for places. The U.S. Navy used to allow alcoholic beverages on U.S. Navy ships. Grog, Ale, and Beer were the supplied as a beverage in the general mess. When Admiral Josephus "Joe" Daniels became Chief of Naval Operations, he outlawed alcohol on board ships. He ordered coffee become the beverage of service on the ships, hence the term "Cup of Joe." Because sailors are generally cold, they wanted their coffee hot. The term hot cup of joe was use, then it was shorten to hot joe, then hojo.<br /><br />Documented and Confirmed...According to the June 2004 issue of Sea magazine (volume 96, no. 6, page 22): When Josephus Daniels became secretary of the Navy in 1913, he prohibited alcohol aboard all U.S. Navy vessels - making coffee the strongest drink that could be served on board. For that reason, sailors started referring to a mug of strong coffee as "a cup of Joe".
 

theriver

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That was a whole boat motor episode ago TR. Forgot I asked and never made it back to the post to see the answers. <br />
Sorry Boom, I didn't realize you didn't make it back. I just thought it was funny that I remembered vividly and I'm the pot smoker.<br /> ;)
 

18rabbit

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Originally posted by EZLoader:<br /> ... Documented and Confirmed...According to the June 2004 issue of Sea magazine (volume 96, no. 6, page 22): When Josephus Daniels became secretary of the Navy in 1913, ...
Yeah, but the use of “joe” as another name for coffee goes back to the 1880’s.
 
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Originally posted by 18rabbit:<br /> ]
Yeah, but the use of “joe” as another name for coffee goes back to the 1880’s. [/quote]<br />REALLY? So it was just a coincindence that the Naval officer was also named Joe? :rolleyes: To what do you attribute this bit of expert testimony? ;)
 
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